| Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 499 Likes: 1 Member/250+posts | Member/250+posts Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 499 Likes: 1 | Hello Carlos
Welcome to the forum. I think you will find a great bunch of people here that are always willing to help. We are fortunate to have this group and do not be afraid to ask for info and assistance.
I've been flying and building the 150/150's for many years and would be glad to pass on what I know. I own a 67G T.D. with an O-320E2D. Up here in Alaska we ask a lot from our little 150's and they can do a lot if they are correctly set up and properly flown.
We have never attempted to create a take off performance chart but we have spent countless hours testing and retesting these 150/150's. In my opinion I would rule out the 100 h.p. 150 as an option if you only have 1000'. I have flown some that will do it but the safety margin is to tight. As far as tail dragger verses nose wheel I think most of us agree the short field performance is often times worse with the tail wheel set up only because the angle of incidence is usually less. To compensate for this we re-arch the main gear and shorten the tail spring as much as possible. Then add the tall tires and you are back up to the steep angles you need for true short field work. In my opinion the true advantage to the tail wheel configuration is the ability to land and take off in rougher, softer terrain and the ability to swing a longer propeller.
My strip is 1100' with no overrun and we have been using the T.D. 150/150's on it since 1978 without incident and that includes hauling some very larger loads in and out. My plane does not have any STOL kit just VG's. I've flown many STOL wing 150's and I'm sorry to say I have yet to see much advantage. The only real performance changes I have seen are in weight loss and H.P. increase or prop pitch and length.
As far as finding one to purchase I do know of a few up here but that is a long way to shuttle a plane. If you find one you are interested in I'd be glad to talk you through the mods and share what I know.
P.M. me if you like.
There are those that fly and those that wish they could.
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1000' grass runway with 800 overrun: 100hp or 150hp, both STOL, much difference?
| Carlos_Rodriguez | 12/24/15 05:12 AM |
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| Michael Sibley | 12/24/15 08:06 AM |
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| Ed Figuli | 12/24/15 09:24 AM |
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| Rick Durden | 12/24/15 04:30 PM |
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| Carlos_Rodriguez | 12/24/15 04:47 PM |
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| Bengie Phillips | 12/25/15 01:45 PM |
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| Carlos_Rodriguez | 12/25/15 09:10 PM |
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| Ed Pataky | 12/25/15 09:13 PM |
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| Carlos_Rodriguez | 12/24/15 04:49 PM |
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| Fred Larson | 12/24/15 05:33 PM |
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| Bruce B | 12/24/15 05:44 PM |
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| Carlos_Rodriguez | 12/24/15 06:27 PM |
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| Grants Pass Bill | 12/24/15 06:34 PM |
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| Carlos_Rodriguez | 12/24/15 06:45 PM |
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| Grants Pass Bill | 12/24/15 06:51 PM |
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| Carlos_Rodriguez | 12/24/15 06:54 PM |
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| Rick Durden | 12/25/15 12:03 AM |
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| Grants Pass Bill | 12/25/15 03:35 PM |
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| Rick Durden | 12/25/15 07:28 PM |
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| Carlos_Rodriguez | 12/25/15 02:46 AM |
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| Rick Durden | 12/25/15 02:51 AM |
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| Carlos_Rodriguez | 12/25/15 03:00 AM |
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| Michael Sibley | 12/25/15 04:59 AM |
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| Keith_Wood | 12/25/15 08:59 PM |
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| Carlos_Rodriguez | 12/25/15 09:18 PM |
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| Hung | 12/25/15 09:43 PM |
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| Carlos_Rodriguez | 12/25/15 09:15 PM |
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| Ed Pataky | 12/25/15 09:23 PM |
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| Carlos_Rodriguez | 12/26/15 12:34 AM |
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| Hung | 12/26/15 01:03 AM |
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| Carlos_Rodriguez | 12/26/15 02:25 AM |
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| Keith_Wood | 12/26/15 05:10 AM |
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| Kirk | 12/26/15 02:30 PM |
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| Bruce B | 12/26/15 03:33 PM |
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| Carlos_Rodriguez | 12/26/15 05:15 AM |
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| Carlos_Rodriguez | 12/26/15 03:52 PM |
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| Keith_Wood | 12/27/15 05:33 AM |
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| Carlos_Rodriguez | 12/27/15 06:17 AM |
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| Ed Pataky | 12/27/15 06:36 AM |
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| Carlos_Rodriguez | 12/27/15 06:49 AM |
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| Ed Pataky | 12/27/15 06:54 AM |
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| Carlos_Rodriguez | 12/27/15 08:32 PM |
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| Rick Durden | 12/27/15 11:50 PM |
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| Carlos_Rodriguez | 12/29/15 05:07 AM |
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| Rick Durden | 12/29/15 05:53 AM |
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| Carlos_Rodriguez | 12/29/15 06:02 AM |
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| Rick Durden | 12/29/15 06:30 AM |
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| Carlos_Rodriguez | 12/29/15 06:35 AM |
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| Grants Pass Bill | 12/29/15 02:25 PM |
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| Carlos_Rodriguez | 12/29/15 04:36 PM |
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| Gary Shreve | 12/29/15 04:42 PM |
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| Carlos_Rodriguez | 12/29/15 04:44 PM |
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| Grants Pass Bill | 12/30/15 01:27 PM |
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| Carlos_Rodriguez | 12/30/15 03:14 PM |
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| Venko Damianov | 12/29/15 05:25 PM |
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| Carlos_Rodriguez | 12/29/15 07:24 PM |
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| Hung | 12/29/15 07:32 PM |
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| Tactic | 12/29/15 08:29 PM |
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| Carlos_Rodriguez | 12/29/15 10:04 PM |
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| Hung | 12/29/15 10:25 PM |
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| Gary Shreve | 12/29/15 10:37 PM |
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| Hung | 12/29/15 10:45 PM |
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| Venko Damianov | 12/30/15 12:07 AM |
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| Carlos_Rodriguez | 12/30/15 12:38 AM |
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| Gary Shreve | 12/30/15 12:49 AM |
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| Tim Noto | 01/04/16 02:20 AM |
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| Carlos_Rodriguez | 12/30/15 12:51 AM |
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| Venko Damianov | 12/30/15 06:26 AM |
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| Carlos_Rodriguez | 12/30/15 07:40 AM |
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| Hung | 12/30/15 12:06 PM |
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| Carlos_Rodriguez | 12/30/15 03:16 PM |
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| Rick Durden | 12/31/15 12:51 AM |
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| Frederic_Arpin | 12/31/15 12:20 AM |
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| Carlos_Rodriguez | 12/31/15 01:24 AM |
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| Carlos_Rodriguez | 12/31/15 01:15 AM |
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| Hung | 12/31/15 01:49 AM |
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| Rick Durden | 12/31/15 05:53 AM |
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| Carlos_Rodriguez | 12/31/15 02:16 AM |
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| Hung | 12/31/15 02:38 AM |
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| Barney Kemter | 12/31/15 03:28 AM |
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| Hung | 12/31/15 04:54 AM |
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| Keith_Wood | 01/03/16 02:55 AM |
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| Carlos_Rodriguez | 01/03/16 02:58 AM |
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| Carlos_Rodriguez | 12/31/15 01:39 PM |
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