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You would contact the STC holder and see what they would do to transfer the paper work from one bird to the other. Some charge a nominal fee, some not so nominal, but most are willing to work with you (except the William's..that is)

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Lionel:

One thing I learned from this experience, as I looked at the wrecked airplanes AIG is offering up for bid... many (maybe 90%) showed the contributing factor for the accident as "fuel starvation" as was the problem associated with this particular Cessna 150.

To me, seeing such reports (and seeing a wrecked airplane) makes many of us more aware of the hazards of not watching or managing the fuel.

I frequently read accident reports on some other websites and it is never pleasant to learn that someone was injured or killed in an accident, but reading such and ocassionally seeing pictures associated with the accident can result in something positive and I try not to focus entirely on the negative.

One of the articles I read from time to time is entitled "I Learned About Flying From This..." and it relates mostly to pilot error...

Every time I have gone to Air Salvage of Dallas, they typically have several wrecked airplanes in their large hanger, roped off with yellow barricade tape for the NTSB investigators. Sometimes, blood is evident in the airplane. Although it can make some folks queezy, for others, we have to ask what happened and why. That always makes me a tad more cautious as I learn what happened.

On my very first airplane accident I covered as a news report for the ABC station in El Paso during the early 1970s, I learned a great deal about the importance of making certain you fly with the correct altimeter setting.

A Beechcraft Baron owned and operated by the USDA impacted Mount Franklin as it was working it's way to ELP International. I won't go into details of what I saw at the crash site near the top of the mountain, but when I told my father (28,000 hour commercial pilot who flew out of El Paso, he immediately knew what happened.)

When the NTSB report came out, sure enough, the pilot (they said) was flying instuments in the clouds and didn't reset his altimeter from the time leaving Phoenix (flying from a sunny high pressure place to El Paso where a cold front had just passed with low pressure)...

This wreck was nasty and I saw everything up-close and personal, but through all my years of flying since seeing this wreck (and others I reported on), just an hour after the Baron accident happened, only 500 feet shy of the top of the mountain, I am "religious" about keeping tabs on the barometric pressure as as I fly cross country. The Baron accident made me a better pilot. And now that I own a fuel-intensive 150/160 with tiny gas tanks, I suspect I'll be "religious" about making very short hops looking for gas.

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Roy, I agree completely with you. During my 20 some years of flying I've come across these as well. I've never been a reporter but the one I remember most was a 250 comanche, Low time pilot, 4 on board. They'd been planning this vacation for the past few months. On the day that they were to leave, the weather was about 1/4 mile in fog. Being motivated to go, they took off anyways. They had flight planned for a 2 hour trip and they never arrived. We searched for them for 6 days. On the 6th day, a search airplane lifted off from the original airport and rather then do a normal extension out, for some reason they started banking earlier,, as they did, they spotted the comanche about 100' of the runmway in solid trees. I was there about 2 hours later. From the investigation,, the plane had come down, at full rpm, chopping up 1 tree on the way down. the rest of the trees around, other then a few broken barnches didn't show anything. There wasn't much left of anything. I flew out of that airport for about 8 yrs after that. Something like that certainly stays in ones mind, and today when it comes to poor weather like that, I think back and remember,, lost souls. I believe that it has certainly forced me to ask many times over,, Is it that important to go today,, Haven't found a reason that has ever been that important,, Hope I never do.


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I'm not so sure that some folks aren't jumping to quick conclusions. Looking over the panels,, it could be blood,, but then again, it could be stain from the red panels. I just don't think someone should get knock over it, otherwise we might as well all live in a protected enviroment,, And this takes us away from the original post,, looking for parts for a 150.
I can assure you those aren't stains from the red panels. First responders were telling us (day after the crash) that the two pilots on board suffered massive head trauma and lived. Those picures are the first I've seen of the plane since the wreck.

Roy, another local and I were talking about bidding on that plane since it is so close to us, I really hope to not get on your bad side if we bid against you.


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Bryan:

No sweat, and I hope you out-bid me if I do make a decision to bid...

Ohio during the winter, for a desert-Texan with my airplane trailer (yep, I haul airplanes too) isn't something I'd care to do in the snow. (Desert Rats and snow don't mix...)

Looks like you guys are in for some white stuff.

P.S. If I do bid and win, let me buy you lunch if not too far from where this salvage is located. I'd say a bowl of Hot Chile would be nice.

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On the 6th day, a search airplane lifted off from the original airport and rather then do a normal extension out, for some reason they started banking earlier,, as they did, they spotted the comanche about 100' of the runmway in solid trees. I was there about 2 hours later. From the investigation,, the plane had come down, at full rpm, chopping up 1 tree on the way down. the rest of the trees around, other then a few broken barnches didn't show anything.

Sounds like an accident that occured at FTY (Charlie Brown - Fulton County, GA, Airport) many years ago. Airplane took off on the short runway that is downhill into the river (the 'hooch) and crashed on the riverbank. In the ensuing CAP search, no one bothered to look so close to the airport. Someone finally noticed it. Apparently the tower controller did not notice that it had disappeared and he wasn't talking to it.

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Bryan:

No sweat, and I hope you out-bid me if I do make a decision to bid...

Ohio during the winter, for a desert-Texan with my airplane trailer (yep, I haul airplanes too) isn't something I'd care to do in the snow. (Desert Rats and snow don't mix...)

Looks like you guys are in for some white stuff.

P.S. If I do bid and win, let me buy you lunch if not too far from where this salvage is located. I'd say a bowl of Hot Chile would be nice. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
Thanks Roy!

Chile you say...I'know just the place! Balyeats Coffee shop! Just ask the East Coast Outkasts, Greg Hopp, Dan Titus, and as of last Saturday, Jim Barger and his wife. Balyeats Coffee shop rocks! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

BTW...this crash was within 10 minutes (driving distance) of our airport, they LITERALLY flew over us before they ran out of gas. The plane is about 30 minutes or so south of us now.


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I thought that the tail looked familiar! It was back in the april log of discussion here. The article includes a dozen small pix of the crash.

Plane crashes in Mercer County near Rockford.
Photo Courtesy of Heather Jolliff

http://www.whiotv.com/news/7409320/detail.html
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