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Hey All,

It's looking like I am going to go LSA for at least the summer. As a result I am going to sell the 150 and most likely buy a Champ. I'm not too happy about it, but oh well. I haven't listed it anywhere yet, but will put it out there in the next couple of weeks when I can get some interior photos. It's currently in for annual, so the seats and everything are out until we get it done. The main part of the annual are done, engine & compression's are all good (Mid - high 70's). The paint and interior are fair. Currently using a handheld wired in for the radio, which works great. I have a Narco 810 and tray to put in. The NAV/COM crapped out a bit ago. The plane runs and flies great. No major sqwaks, just normal 50 year old plane stuff. Here is some basic info. I will list it for $19,500, but would certainly sell it to a club member for less. My e-mail is: pete@beaverbrook.net

Also, if anyone has experience getting a special issuance after bypass surgery, I am all ears.

Pete

UPDATE

So,

Made it through surgery just fine and am home healing up. I have added a few photos of the panel and also looked into why a top end was done so soon after major. Nothing occurred, but the buyer before me requested it as the cylinders were not overhauled on the major. I have log entries I can e-mail for everything if needed. The plane also has some damage history and I also can e-mail the log entries and 337 forms for that as well.Talking to folks that have gone through the same thing, getting a special issuance is certainly do-able, but the time frame for almost all of them has been about a year.

Pete

- 1967 150G
- TTAF: 6,515
- TSMOH: 710
- TOH: 350
- Complete Logs
- Runs on Mo-gas
- Climb prop with 200+-Hrs
- New mufflers being installed (That's why you don't see exhaust pipes in the photos)
- New, old aluminum wing tips, which look sharp.
- New mains
- Spin On oil filter
- New RG-25 battery
- Useful load Over 500lbs
- Shoot me a e-mail with any other questions.
- Currently the plane is hangered at Argyle 1C3

Good luck with your sale, Pete.

I have no experience with a Class III after bypass, but you may be able to switch to BasicMed. I would check into that and see if I were in your place.

Wow, Pete. First off, Love the plane!

Second, Congratulations on staying alive before they got the bypass surgery completed. I can't imagine what that felt like. I've always heard the chest pain is more like a giant pressure...much like an elephant sitting on your chest and you just can't breathe.

Cessna 150, Champ, Quicksilver, doesn't matter. I'm glad you're able to (and feel like) flying anything at this point.

I tip my hat to ya, Mr. Burns!

According to BasicMed Rules [faa.gov] , Pete will need to get a Special Issuance one time for his condition, before he can switch to BasicMed.

As I understand it, if you have a current medical and let it lapse (i.e. never get another FAA medical exam), then you can go Basic Med. But if you were denied a medical because of the heart condition, then you would need a special issuance.

Doesn’t make sense, but it’s the way the law is written.

I think that even for basic med if you develop any of the following you nee to get a one time special issuance:

A cardiovascular condition, limited to a one-time special issuance for each diagnosis of the following:

Myocardial infarction;
Coronary heart disease that has required treatment;
Cardiac valve replacement; or
Heart replacement.

I bet Dr. Chien could help Pete.
There are a lot of pilots with 3rd class medicals that have By-pass surgery.

Also, there is a move afoot for the FAA to change the weight limits for LSA, in which case the 150 (and even 172s and 182s) would qualify as LSA planes. If you love your plane, you might be able to keep it when this comes to pass.

See https://generalaviationnews.com/2018/10/29/the-real-story-behind-the-proposed-changes-to-lsa/ and google LSA rule changes.

One question that would stand out to me if I were in the market is why a top overhaul so soon after a major overhaul (TO 360 hours after MOH). A list of avionics would also be important to me. If I wanted to keep my plane, I'd rather pay for a visit with him than try to sell a well cared for plane and buy something different.

You can find Dr. Chien at http://www.aeromedicaldoc.com. He is extremely knowledgeable on aeromedical questions and well connected at the FAA to get difficult issues taken care of.

I had a C150G and loved it. It is a fun plane. I just needed more space so went to its bigger brethren.

I can't add anything to what Gary has said. The important piece is that you're still here and we're all talking about it.


Lead on, Pete.



Jim

Hey All,

Thanks for all the kind words. I haven't had the surgery yet, that is scheduled for 2/11. I have been on basic med since last year, as a matter of convenience (1 Dr. visit, vs 2), not medical stuff, but that doesn't matter, I will still need a special issuance to get a medical back, which I plan on doing down the road. I have talked to the folks at AOPA a few times and although the process seems straightforward, it can be lengthy. 6 months after surgery would be the shortest time-frame I could expect, and if I am denied, well then that's that. I would love to see the LSA rules changed, but I'm not holding my breath on that one. Gary, I actually own a Quicksilver MX, so I can always fly that!

On a heads up note for folks - I am not preaching here, just relaying info. I am in my mid 50's and very active. I own a whitewater rafting & outfitting company and am on the river or guiding trips frequently. I'm not overweight and pretty fit for a guy my age. I have had a history of high cholesterol & blood-pressure, but with diet & medication, both have been good for years. This fall I was hunting with a pack on, hiking up a fairly steep mountain. Felt a slight tightening in my chest. This was very subtle, not elephant on the chest, shortness of breath or any other symptoms. I blew it off, thinking as a result of having the pack on my chest muscles were a little tight. This happened a couple of other times and then when I was piling wood with no pack on, same thing. Long story short, got it checked out had multiple tests and turns out I have a 90% blockage in one artery and a 60% in another. Where the blockage was a stent was not a option. I guess my point is that this was very subtle and I could have easily dismissed it.

On the plane side of things, it's hangered a hour away for the winter and I plan on getting some interior photos and other info shortly. As for the top end overhaul, I'm not sure why that was done, but the shop doing the annual owned the plane when it was done and I will ask them. I bought it about 100 hours after that. As far as I know there was no big reason or engine trauma and it has run great since I have owned it.

Pete

Pete,
I have a very good friend that had a 5-way bypass a couple of years ago. He is currently flying with a Class 3 medical. It took awhile to get it back but he was persistent. The process took him about a year. It would not have been as long if he had sought expert advice BEFORE applying for a special issuance. Even his AME did not get a report from his cardiologist with the proper “wording” so he was denied. He did not give up! There are many pilots out there with bypass surgery flying with special issuances. Find a cardiologist who is also an AME. Get all the required tests and have the paperwork reviewed carefully. Don’t let bypass surgery stop you from flying!