| Joined: Mar 2014 Posts: 13 Member | Member Joined: Mar 2014 Posts: 13 | We have one for sale on this forum. M model 2180 TTAF 500SMOH. Very nice paint scheme and clean interior. Located in Lakeland, FL.
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| | | | Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 279 Member/250+posts | Member/250+posts Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 279 | Swordfish has a good point. Sometimes asking around the local airports will turn up a plane for sale that hasn't been listed on one of the big sites. For example there is a 150 for sale at my field that isn't listed at all. It's one of those deals where the owner rarely flies it and may sell but doesn't need to sell.
It's a 66 with horrible paint. We call it the fuschia falcon. Not sure about the times. If the owner is in the selling mood it most likely could be had for the low teens. | | | | Joined: May 2016 Posts: 703 Likes: 5 Member/500+posts | Member/500+posts Joined: May 2016 Posts: 703 Likes: 5 | We may look at a C150D here in FL this weekend. Logs show damage history in late 90's. No oil filter (not sure how bad this can be). But looks clean and healthy.
Victor Cessna 177RG N1822Q KHWO, South Florida States where I have landed as a PIC | | | | Joined: Oct 2011 Posts: 245 Likes: 1 Member/100+posts | Member/100+posts Joined: Oct 2011 Posts: 245 Likes: 1 | BTW, in Controller.com, there is this one [ controller.com] that looks beautiful. It's tailwheel and IFR capable. A 150 taildragger with a Garmin 430 and an STEC50 autopilot, that's pretty good package for the price. Only thing missing is a 150hp conversion. Won't fit my friend's mission. He wants to start his time-building immediately. He needs at least 1,000 hrs TBO.
Just because it's near/over TBO doesn't mean he has to do anything about it. A high time engine can be a deal, as you're buying it with no engine value. I bought my 150 with 17xx SMOH, flew it to 23xx SMOH. Both I and the next buyer bought it as a $0 value engine and as far as I know he's still flying it.
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| | | | Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 8,775 Likes: 300 Member/7500+posts | Member/7500+posts Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 8,775 Likes: 300 | We may look at a C150D here in FL this weekend. Logs show damage history in late 90's. No oil filter (not sure how bad this can be). But looks clean and healthy. Our 150 doesn't have the oil filter STC done either. I don't think it is a big deal. I change the oil at 25 hours instead of 50, but I have always been one in favor of more frequent oil changes. For a Florida airplane, my main concern (if I were looking) would be airframe corrosion. | | | | Joined: May 2016 Posts: 703 Likes: 5 Member/500+posts | Member/500+posts Joined: May 2016 Posts: 703 Likes: 5 | We may look at a C150D here in FL this weekend. Logs show damage history in late 90's. No oil filter (not sure how bad this can be). But looks clean and healthy. Our 150 doesn't have the oil filter STC done either. I don't think it is a big deal. I change the oil at 25 hours instead of 50, but I have always been one in favor of more frequent oil changes. For a Florida airplane, my main concern (if I were looking) would be airframe corrosion. Thanks Stacey. Regarding this 150D, I couldn't find in the logbooks whether the generator was ever replaced with an alternator. The owner doesn't know. We may go see it tomorrow. But wanted to understand pros/cons of generator vs alternator. My 150D has a plane power alternator but I never knew why it was replaced. Also, speaking with the A&P of the 150D for sale, he said that the only thing he recommends to change to that plane is the breaks. It has old breaks and he recommends Cleveland. My questions are: - Is it essential to replace the generator and the breaks in the short term? - If yes, what should be the budget for those changes? The answers will help us come up with an offer if we really like the plane. Thanks
Victor Cessna 177RG N1822Q KHWO, South Florida States where I have landed as a PIC | | | | Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 5,975 Member/5000+posts! | Member/5000+posts! Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 5,975 | My questions are: - Is it essential to replace the generator and the breaks in the short term? - If yes, what should be the budget for those changes?
The answers will help us come up with an offer if we really like the plane.
Thanks
An alternator is more modern, provides a better source of electrical power. Weighs less than a generator. Depends on the required load- if flying VFR off a grass strip and just a basic radio, a generator will work just fine. Similar to wanting to eliminate a venturi and install an engine driven vacuum pump.
The brake conversion is actually a wheel and brake conversion, comes with wheels, brake disc and brake, all mountings etc. Figure on around $2 K just for the kit. Most conversions are done because parts for older installations are not avail or supported by aftermarket suppliers. No problem keeping plane as-is if what is currently installed is still airworthy. Unless you have the money to spend, or use it as a bargaining chip to lower sales price..... Then you could mention pull starter is not newer key start.... Or perhaps one or all four cylinders are the early "24 degree" ones And look at the upper cowl nose cap to see how badly it is cracked and patched....
| | | | Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 8,775 Likes: 300 Member/7500+posts | Member/7500+posts Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 8,775 Likes: 300 | Hi again Victor.
As far as the alternator versus generator (to build on what Brian said), our previous airplane was a 172G. It had dual NAVCOM's, audio panel, Loran, rotating beacon and belly beacon, and lights. When idling, the generator had a hard time putting out enough power for the low voltage light to go out. Our 150 has an alternator and puts out ample power at idle. That's the biggest difference I noticed. As far as being a deal killer if it has a generator, I would say no. I think most folks would opt for an alternator all else being equal. | | | | Joined: May 2016 Posts: 703 Likes: 5 Member/500+posts | Member/500+posts Joined: May 2016 Posts: 703 Likes: 5 | Thanks all for the knowledge!
Looks like I won't be able to fly my friend to look at the 150D tomorrow. Weather down here is not cooperating. I'll keep you posted.
Victor Cessna 177RG N1822Q KHWO, South Florida States where I have landed as a PIC | | | | Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 35,560 Likes: 560 DA POOBS Member with 30,000+ posts!! | DA POOBS Member with 30,000+ posts!! Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 35,560 Likes: 560 | I have a totally rebuilt 20 amp Delco generator and the approved Zeftronics solid state regulator. All you need to do to catch up with me is rebuild your generator, tend to the 14 tooth gear, and install the regulator if you still have points. It's really about how your plane was treated and how well you will start treating it when it comes. Why would I want to go to a 20 amp generator when a 60 amp alternator was the Cessna replacement for a 35 amp generator? Hell... let's ditch the vacuum pump and go to venturis. Maybe we can get a single venturi that can draw a total of 4 inches of vacuum to drive a directional gyro, turn coordinator and a horizon... all at once. Hey, while you're at it, why not grease the gyro and generator bearings with John Deere axel grease? Don't forget the prop wash, either. This just gets more and more ridiculous. ![[Linked Image from animatedimages.org]](https://www.animatedimages.org/data/media/218/animated-penguin-image-0137.gif) [ animatedimages.org] Imagine a united world. Join the Popular Front for the Reunification of Gondwanaland. | | |
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