All this talk of Hanggliding I had to chime in. Larry Jorgensen here from Washington state. HG for the last 30 years, flying a couple hundred hours a year. also do tandems and owne a Dragonfly Tug and tow HG's up. I had to get my private a few years ago as the FAA stepped in and amde us get these heavy ultralites N#. To tow you must have a private. So last year I bought a 150m to keep my ticket. Tired of renting 172's and 152's.This is a great site, best I have seen.