| Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 5,465 Likes: 22 Member/5000+posts! | Member/5000+posts! Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 5,465 Likes: 22 | Bill, When you say Manufactured, do you mean..."put together" or actually Manufactured from raw material, as my understanding of most X-airs, is that they come form India, or maybe that's just the ones that we get access too  Cheers All the web page says is that the factory is in Bend Oregon..................HMMMMMMMMMM? Does that mean built there? Or just assembled there? I dunno. Bill Grants Pass, Oregon Maybe under license or something....perhaps...that said, when you go over there, I'd really like to know one way of the other, just to get my head right if nothing else Now this..... looks like I have the answer.....CheersX-AIR LLC, Mr. Matt Verdieck (Importer): Oregon ( A subsidiary of Raj Hamsa Ultralights Pvt Ltd in the USA, and builders of the X-AIR LS) X-air llc
Matt Gray
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| | | | Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 149 Member/100+posts | Member/100+posts Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 149 | I agree with Matt Gray in the second post. Give it a look in person. I was at an airshow and there was a local flight school advertising there school. They had one on disply. I thought it was a mock-up for advertising. The wings look like they were inflated and it had funky wrinkles over the fuselage. The wing tips were especially atrocious . It wasn't till I looked inside that I realized that it was a functioning aircraft! | | | | Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 7,054 Likes: 99 Member/5000+posts! | Member/5000+posts! Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 7,054 Likes: 99 | I agree with Matt Gray in the second post. Give it a look in person. I was at an airshow and there was a local flight school advertising there school. They had one on disply. I thought it was a mock-up for advertising. The wings look like they were inflated and it had funky wrinkles over the fuselage. The wing tips were especially atrocious . It wasn't till I looked inside that I realized that it was a functioning aircraft! It's starting to become obvious to me that Cessna put a lot of money, research, and testing in the C-162 Skycatcher, and the result is a pricey (twice the cost of this X-AirLS thing) but quality product. I've sat in several 162s, and it's no piece of junk -- like this thing looks to be. The C-162 is partially manufactured in China, and final assembly is in the USA. THis X-Air thing looks to be India-built. Apparently, you get what you pay for. I'll take the Cessna any day. | | | | Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 13,969 Member/10,000+ posts! | Member/10,000+ posts! Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 13,969 | It's starting to become obvious to me that Cessna put a lot of money, research, and testing in the C-162 Skycatcher, and the result is a pricey (twice the cost of this X-AirLS thing) but quality product. I've sat in several 162s, and it's no piece of junk -- like this thing looks to be.
The C-162 is partially manufactured in China, and final assembly is in the USA. THis X-Air thing looks to be India-built. Apparently, you get what you pay for.
I'll take the Cessna any day.
It's interesting isn't it? Just how quickly people are willing to make snap judgments on other people's opinions. Look at how many folks out there bad mouth the 150 and 152. They would not be caught dead owning or flying one of these underpowered, undersized............ The lowest they would ever consider come down on the pecking pole would possibly be a 172. When many of these folks have never even flown in a 150 or 152. I don't know much about the X-Air. Other then it does have a very attractive price. And according to the specifications will out perform a 150 or 152. I am willing to reserve any further judgment until I actually get to at least see one myself. Bill Grants Pass, Oregon | | | | Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 2,396 Likes: 60 Member/1500+posts | Member/1500+posts Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 2,396 Likes: 60 | I'll never stop being fascinated by airplanes, so I'm interested in both of them, but realistically, $60,000 is as far away for me as $120,000. Explanatory dialog follows: Me: as far as concerns money, I should have been an Engineering prof or a Business Administration prof.
Snarky daughter: But dad, what about all the industry competing with the U for the services of somebody good at Latin?
Me: YEAH, RIGHT!
Happy, resignedly happy, with the 150 I've got.
"The most beautiful thing on earth is the sky above it." -- Joanna Fink
| | | | Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 13,969 Member/10,000+ posts! | Member/10,000+ posts! Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 13,969 | Oh, I hear ya Tom. Realistically, both of these airplanes brand new are out of our reach also. But, a $60,000 airplane comes into the reach of many more other folks out there. And a new $60,000 airplane today may very well become affordable sometime in my future. Along with many other folks as well. Where the Skycatcher never will. By the time a Skycatcher ever gets down in our price range it will most assuredly be ready for the scrap yard.
I was just tickled to see an "affordable" ready to fly two place airplane actually being manufactured today. Especially when so many folks have argued that it cannot be done.
Bill Grants Pass, Oregon
| | | | Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 8,775 Likes: 301 Member/7500+posts | Member/7500+posts Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 8,775 Likes: 301 | I think the more airplanes the better. Maybe ours will increase in value in proportion to what they are really worth! I like my 150. | | | | Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 5,465 Likes: 22 Member/5000+posts! | Member/5000+posts! Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 5,465 Likes: 22 | Bill, G'day, I was not Poo Pooing the aircraft as, initially I kinda like it, and it seemed a good way to get some experience building a kit without committing to years of build time. Its just that when I actually got to see one in person, and as I mentined (Shook it - and heard it rattling from every connection or joint) it didn't seem quite so attractive anymore. That siad, there are many flying and they look like fun, I personally, just had second thoughts about actually wanting to own and fly one......  Cheers
Matt Gray
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| | | | Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 13,969 Member/10,000+ posts! | Member/10,000+ posts! Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 13,969 | LOL Matthew. Sometimes I really get frustrated with this form of communication because of the misunderstandings that can occur. I appreciated your and Jason's first hand opinions with these aircraft. And I am sure that you both fully understand why I too would like to see one in person, however, before making any discouraging remarks myself.
Thanks again,
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