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Shortened the wing? Wet wing? composite prop? Split windshield? Windshield bracing? Landing lights in both wings? I wonder if there are any restrictions on that Experimental certification?? Like, exhibition only??

Very interesting to say the least...........

AW! Wait a minute.........Gull wing doors! We have seen this plane before. Seems to me I recall some problems back then??


Bill
Grants Pass, Oregon

If I am not mistaken, to do your own annuals on an Experimental category plane, the owner had to do over 50% (or maybe more) of the building of the aircraft? If not, then the plane is treated like any other plane?
Also, i wonder if all the cooling of the engine is proven to work? With these modifications, I would hope the cooling baffles are engineered to do the job,

Yup, this plane has made several appearances in the past. If it lives up to all the said numbers, it would be one REALLY impressive toy. Granted you would have to assume to position of 100% test pilot as there won't be a single guarantee that's any good from that Cessna POH. Looks like it's poised to move for real this time, no reserve, charitable autcion.

second time for sale since 2004:

http://www.helixsys.com/coupe/

That's pretty much true, the so-called "51%" rule. There are some important details, but the spirit of the rule is correct.

However, that's only true when you build the airplane from the ground up. Disassembling and reassembling a certified aircraft does not make it Experimental, no matter how many parts you replace.

Also, there are various flavors of Experimental. Home-built experimentals are the least restrictive. Modifying a certified airframe places it in one of several other types of Experimental classes (categories?), depending upon the nature and extent of the changes. But those types of Experimentals are very restricted in the allowable flight regimes.

There was one case of a Helio Courier that had so many major modifications (new engine, landing gear, wings, etc.) that the FAA considered it a home-built. But I don't believe this particular Cessna 150 would fall under the same class. Clipping the wings is one thing - building a new set of wings (as was done on the Helio) is quite another.

N250DA is not in the FAA registry................

Oh GAWD!! And an O-320 H2AD engine!!

Bill
Grants Pass, Oregon

The aircraft was donated to the organization by a local Physician who was not flying it enough to justify owning it

TRANSLATE: He couldn't sell it- too highly modified.
A standard 150M, regardless of engine swap, taildragger conversion,STOL kit,"gull wing" doors, wet wing,taller fin, and ( I can't believe it) shortened wings, DOES NOT MAKE IT AN AEROBAT! Hopefully someone won't buy it and attempt "airshow aerobatics" on this hacked-up plane, thinking it's OK being "experimental" ... and you can do whatever you want.
I'll pass on this one...
-B

This airplane is listed in FAA registry as expirmntal and amature built. I don't know what that means to the FAA.

Geo.

You are mistaken. The 51% "rule" pertains to kits and whether the manufacturer of the kit has fabricated less than half of the aircraft so that it can qualify as an amateur built experimental. If the kit maker fabs more than half the aircraft, it is factory built and would have to be certified as such.

Each Experimental Amateur Built aircraft needs an annual condition inspection. Unlike standard category aircraft, home builts don't need an A&P with IA to do the inspection. Any A&P or anyone holding a repairman's certificate for that particular airframe can accomplish and signoff the condition inspection. To get a repairman's certificate from the FAA you have to prove to the FAA that you are familiar with all aspects of the construction of the aircraft. Only one repairman's certificate is issued to each amateur built aircraft. Nothing requires the repairman candidate to have actually constructed the aircraft but the rules say that the primary builder "should" be the one to apply for the RC. Unlike standard category aircraft, anyone can accomplish any maintenance whatsoever on an experimental amateur built aircraft--doesn't have to be an owner/pilot or an A&P.