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First time buyer need advise .

Is this one worth 25K asking price? Sounds too much for 1000 SMOH engine, but I am not sure how 235 STOH affects this.

Anybody around Walla Walla, WA is willing to check out this plane? I will compensate for couple hours of your time or buy you a few weeks supply of beer


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We have two single-channel Nav/Coms: Com One is a KX170B with KI209 VOR/GS indicator and KN75 glideslope receiver. Com Two is an RT328T with VOR indicator. Plus, we have a KMA 20 audio panel to bring it all together as one system and provide marker beacon indication for IFR work. And we have a 2-place intercom, a separate antenna connection for your hand-held radio, a nice left seat yoke wrap with built-in push-to-talk button, plus a standard velcro-attached PTT switch for the right seat, handy for training. The cabin speaker works, in case your passenger has no headset.

So it is all set up as a true IFR trainer. All this stuff (VORs, GS, marker beacons, etc.) works fine. The plane is not certified for IFR flight (would be of not much use here in Walla Walla), but we have been doing IFR training in it, and there is nothing stopping someone from getting it certified..

Mode-C transponder of course (KT76A).

You won't find a more fully equipped 150 for the price.

Hello Alexander,

Personally, I would pay no more then $20,000 for a good, solid 150 with a mid time engine.

We will be going through the Walla Walla area sometime mid to late March. If you still need a looksie then, please let me know.

Note: Just in case my opinion above offended anybody, I apologize. That was not the intent............

Decent looking airplane, but for that price, those radios are ARCHAIC!!

It is a nice looking plane. The modern paint scheme is attractive and looks well kept, as does the interior (some matching carpet and seat belts would really set it off). Jeff is right about the radios, though. They add little if anything to the value of the plane. Kings are reliable, but an expensive PITA when they need repairs. You can't replace the King components (radio, VOR/GS indicator, GS receiver) separately with anything but King should one go bad because of King's proprietary wiring. Otherwise, you have to change the whole system (and this one's already old).

I believe Tim Reardon is a club member? I reserve comment on the price!

Thank you all. I understand that radios are ancient and price is on higher side, and since this is my first plane I would rather wait for the next one . Does that make sense ?

Alexander,

G'day,

Bottom line.... it's worth whatever your are prepared to pay for it. The radio's might be old but, if they're working alright that is all that really matters.

Yes, they could be expensive to replace but again, depends what you replace them with (second hand same unit's, TKM, reconditioned, or brand new / new installation, the outcome is again up to you and as such, so is the price. Hey..they could last you for years , or they could die on your first flight as the new owner - its a bit of a lottery in that regard, you could either be lucky or unlucky, but on face value not a deal breaker.

For me, my major area of concern would be more toward the the airframe and engine condition. Airframe corrosion or a crappy engine is likely to more a deal breaker than a couple of doggy radios

As far as a supposed "good deal" goes......the price mentioned is of course the "asking price" - not necessarily the purchase price, so if the aircraft interests you, you'll need to go the next step, do some real research on the plane(airframe and engine as mentioned above) and if your still interested at this point...some bargaining. I should mention, a couple of snags can be a good thing for price reductions, just be sure you know you stuff, cause you can easily get burned trying to get a bargain basement deal at this level). Only then you will know if it's a good, and proper price. We can sit here and and offer all sort of theories on it which at the end of the day are really only personal preferences, but, and more importantly.....what's it worth to you...

Good luck with your search

Tim is a club member, but not active on the forum. I am only 60 miles away, but can't say when I could get up for a look. I agree, the radio's may be an issue. On the other hand, I don't care near as much about radio's as I used to.

So really it comes down to what the plane is worth assuming you had to put in a new nav/com/gps or something similar. That would probably set you back $4K or so for a garmin 250 or similar.

It would help folks to know where you are also (update your profile).

If you get serious about the plane and are talking to the seller and still want a look see, then I will try to get a look at it. However, don't want to burn a bunch of $5 avgas on a tire-kicking expidition.

Jeff, thank you for the offer to check out the plane. I will talk to the mechanic of that plane and I will think about nav/gps upgrades...

Alexander, you're new here!

There is LOTS more to discuss before you get serious about buying a plane. For instance, place very little if any confidence in anything the "current" mechanic has to say. You'll need an impartial mechanic for any pre-buy (which should really be an annual inspection). Get the FAA CD on the airplane. Do all of your homework before ANY money changes hands. There's lot's more to learn, first!

You are at an advantage here because the owner is a club member, and there are probably some here who know the mechanic and maybe even the airplane, but don't throw caution to the wind, either.

This airplane looks OK to me, maybe a little above average, but not the radios obviously. Without more specific knowlege, My informal observation would be possibly $20K-$22K for this combination.