| Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 666 Member/500+posts | Member/500+posts Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 666 | As I understand the process, the owner has to get in tough with an agent from a FSDO. My question, how do I get in tough with someone in that office? For me, it is someone in Milwaukee but where do I find a telephone number ar an e-mail address. I may have to do a ferry to another airport for my past due annual. Wil Stoughton,WI | | | | Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 613 Member/500+posts | Member/500+posts Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 613 | you should be able to get the info you need off of the faa web site faa.gov
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| | | | Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,134 Member/1500+posts | Member/1500+posts Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,134 | ok all good info i see so far but the one big thing is you can only fly for up to 10 hrs away to your home base to perform the maintenance
dang cant find cfr book but i know from school that its there You may be thinking about the 10 hours you can go past a 100hr inspection. Any operating limits imposed on a ferry flight will be issued with the ferry permit but there is no maximum flight length.
Tim '76 C-150M, San Antonio
| | | | Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,134 Member/1500+posts | Member/1500+posts Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,134 | As I understand the process, the owner has to get in tough with an agent from a FSDO. My question, how do I get in tough with someone in that office? For me, it is someone in Milwaukee but where do I find a telephone number ar an e-mail address. I may have to do a ferry to another airport for my past due annual. Wil Stoughton,WI It's really not a question of getting tough with someone at the FSDO. An A&P is going to have to inspect the plane and certify to the FSDO issuing the ferry permit/special airworthiness certificate that the plane is safe to make the flight. Pretty routine if the A&P says its good to go.
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Tim '76 C-150M, San Antonio
| | | | Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 618 Member/500+posts | Member/500+posts Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 618 | It's time for Mike to bring up insurance. Be absolutely sure the flight is covered, two ways. Almost all policies contain standard language that requires the aircraft to have a current, valid Annual Inspection. So request a written/faxed statement of coverage for this particular flight of the aircraft out of Annual from the underwriter/insuring company, not just the agent. Secondly, if you are ferrying the plane for someone else, the owner may be covered (insurance company will pay them) against a loss based on the above. However, the insurance company may likely subrogate against you (sue you to recover what they paid to him and other losses such as recovery, storage of the hulk, etc.). Be sure of both the above, or accept the financial risk. And don't kid yourself, a goodly percentage of losses occur in ferrying aircraft. Mike.
Mike Dann 1975 A150M Tailwheel Aerobat Gardner (K34), Kansas
| | | | Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 15,906 Likes: 1001 Member/15,000 posts | Member/15,000 posts Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 15,906 Likes: 1001 | Wil, As Tim has noted above, Your A/P will need to be involved and he/she will know how to get in touch with the local FSDO. I know you don't want to get tough with them. 
Ron Stewart N5282B KSFZ | | | | Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 2,541 Member/2500+posts | Member/2500+posts Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 2,541 | As I understand the process, the owner has to get in tough with an agent from a FSDO. In tough or in touch?
John Hudson Tiner
| | | | Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 8,433 Likes: 3 Member/7500+posts | Member/7500+posts Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 8,433 Likes: 3 | ok all good info i see so far but the one big thing is you can only fly for up to 10 hrs away to your home base to perform the maintenance
dang cant find cfr book but i know from school that its there No, I don't think so. You can overrun a required 100 hr inspection by 10% in order to get to home base, but the new 100 hr is only good for the remaining hours (90?) to the next scheduled 100 hr inspection. This has NOTHING to do with an annual or a ferry permit. If the feds will give you a ferry permit from Seattle to Key West, then its OK to fly it, however, it has to be a reasonably direct, route, detours to Maine would not be allowed. In Lionel's case, the ferry permit would get you TO the border, but not into Canada, unless you had something already set up with Transport Canada. Charles | | | | Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 2,525 Member/2500+posts | Member/2500+posts Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 2,525 | In my case, it was a long story, didn't take long to get the paperwork in order, mind you. We canceled the US registration, Applied the temp Canadian registration, and the flight permit took me from Texas to home in Canada. It was a bit of a smozzle, some FAA offices didn't know what to do. The previous owner was awesome and really helped out a lot, we got all the paper work done up before I even arrived, including registration. Guess it really helps to have a few contacts here and there. The flying part that was easy. Airplane got a pre-purchase by a mechanic I'd located, he was reasonable with his costs. It then went to a "DAR" I believe it was, for an export inspection and permit. The "DAR" picked up that the prop serial numbers didn't jive, so he grounded the plane on the spot. Unfortunately for the owner, he got stuck dealing with that part of it, as I hadn't arrived as yet. It all worked out good for me. That was the only issue picked up at all. So, based off my experience, and this only was picked up because of the export inspection, I would suggest that a pre-purchase include pulling the prop and having a look see for whatever, and ensuring serial numbers match to log books.
Lionel, and my 1974 150L C-FETZ
| | | | Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 613 Member/500+posts | Member/500+posts Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 613 | no thats not what i mean im talking flight time no more then 10 hr in the air
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