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Ok, need some advice for those of you in the know. In the good old days I would have just flown it home and asked for forgiveness later but being as everyone is being policticaly correct now days here is the question. I have a bid in on a 185 Skywagon (my second favorite after a 170) in Renton Washington. It is low time hasn't been flown in 2 years, Out of Annual, Everything works. No deposit, Contigent on Full Annual but only with my involvement at my home base. (just like I purchased my last one) So here is what I guoted, I will purchase it if no major problems are found, If so we will negotiate, If we can't agree I return it to the airport no charge. What do you A/I or A/P's suggests? Rather fly myself than American any day. This is a situation where an old pilot passed away and his wife is selling. I will not take advantage of the situation but will not be burned on my end either. Equipment is good but color is bad. Price is right. No I won't be parting with my current irplane. Just adding to the stable.

Dale,

I've got lots of time in 180/185's and have flown 2 ferry flights ... but I'm not sure what your question is. I'm not an A&P so maybe you're looking for mechanical advice, but if you need pilot and/or non-certified mechanical observations I'll be glad to help.

Lemme know.

Terry

I'm not an A&P, and I don't play one on TV. But, this past summer I was contemplating a ferry permit when my alternator was toast. The mechanic at the other airport had a friend who was a DAR, but I would have had to pay him to fly to where I was. The mechanic strongly hinted that the plane was safe to fly and off I went. However, hat was only about 1 1/2 hours in the air, and it was a plane that I know well.

I guess what has to happen is an A&P needs to sign it off as safe for the intended flight and a DAR issues the permit. No passengers are allowed and there are other limitations such as VFR only and no flying over congested areas.

For a flight from Washington to Texas, there's no doubt that I'd get the permit. Good luck!

Dale,

My initial answer would have been just as you were thinking of doing yourself. Just get in and fly. Who would be the wiser. You are already aware of the risks. But now that you have announced to the world your intentions on a public Forum??????????

A & P checks the a/c and finds it safe for the intented flight. He then calls the local FAA who sends him a ferry permit by fax (unless he is close enough to get at office) He makes a log book entry that a/c is safe for the flight and includes any restrictions from ferry permit usually day light VFR. I supose a DAR could issue one but he would charge. The FAA always issues for no cost. Any licences pilot can fly the A/C.

A couple of reasons for the question, no annual so not legal to go anywhere, not my plane yet so it must be insured for the flight, Insurance will cover if it has a permit. Want to do this right for her as well as myself. Plus there are fewer landing sites in that neck of the woods so fewer options if something goes wrong.

How far can you go on a ferry permit,, being Canadian and all that good stuff, seems I haven't figured out how to fly a US registered airplane. Well a ferry permit from Austin Texas, to BC worked for me, about 20 hours worth of flying. For some reason,, "and only the most wise of pilots will understand this",, the 150 was inclined to fly on a Westerly heading, with a few detours in between. Eventually, she figured it out, actually, she had no choice when she hit this big body of water called the Pacific ocean, and we took a more Northerly heading.

The only problem with a ferry permit is, mine had a 30 day window,, and when you arrive at the stated destination,, you're grounded till it's certified airworthy, with flight permit terminated. Before getting to destination,, you can sight see,,mind you,,

I would not ferry the airplane that far with or without a ferry permit. Two years of sitting and who knows what is going to happen? Who will be responsable if something goes wrong and you have to land halfway. Do you then call the owner and say that the airplane is broke and you left it in a field in california? The liablity is way too high. Why not fly your A&P to the airplane and have it inspected? Way cheaper in the long run and you are not out on a big limb...
Good Luck.

Still couldn't fly it,, Us registered versus Canadian license. As with all cases, insurance does cover flight permits as well,,

ok all good info i see so far but the one big thing is you can only fly for up to 10 hrs away to your home base to perform the maintenance

dang cant find cfr book but i know from school that its there