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300152632725 Have you seen this really clean 150 on ebay? The guys from SW Iowa so Im sure at least some of you are familiar with this plane. this thing is immaculate and has a lot of recent work put into it. Sounds like the kinda deal I'll look for when Im ready to buy. I've contacted the guy to tell him I'll keep in touch in the event it doesnt sell on ebay. What do you all think? Good deal?
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31,600 is outrageous for a stock 150. For that price you need a big engine, whiz bang avionics, (or both), and long range tanks.

With one day and 5 hours left to bid, the current bid is $16,000. I think it will sell for maybe $20,000, and that MIGHT be a good deal, but it's worth nowhere near the $31,600 "Buy It Now" price. The radios are antiques, too!

Here's something I found interesting! From the club's database, The airplane had 5,700 hours total time in April 2005, and now is advertised as having 5687.5 hours. Even if the time was "rounded off" in 2005, the plane hasn't flown much, if at all, since. NOT a good sign!

Did you know it's owned by "FLY BY NIGHT AVIATION, LLC"? Really! I'm not making that up!

Good find Carl. I never thought to look the plane up on here. I've got a lot to learn!! I dont know if Im going to be buying now or not really. Or even flying for that matter. I got a setback today at my 3rd class flight examination..minor only Im hoping..now Im just waiting on the FAA...hopefully not too long..we'll see

Evening all,

Look I really hate to say this, but.... I think you guys over there have been living in a padded cell for too long.

OK, just before I check over my shoulder to see coming, and /or remove the daggers that will obviously being hurled in my direction, the only thing keepin the price of your aircraft down, is your attitude ( and in some regard licencing rules) for your aircraft.......

Let me explain, A 150/152, by all counts is a very capable aircraft, you all know that, after all you fly them all over the country to Clinton every year..Right...

Take a look outside your own world for a moment.....I'm talkling off shore of USA

A stock standard 150 with very little to offer, outside of the USA is actually a valuable item. Heck, down here for the most avarage aircraft your looking at 32K Aus (around 26-28K, US) We have 152 in good condition selling for 60+K Aus, do the sums...at even 70c in the dollar that 42K US. Ok, I agree, there are more available in the US than just about anywhere else, but, why do you think people all over the world are looking at the US to relocate 150-152 world wide. You even had one of your own club members sell their aircraft recently overseas for a great $$ value - the new owner probably got a bargain for the particular part of the world he live's in.

Then, lets look at what we have to replace the 150/152, an LSA 162 aircraft starting at 105K US...anyone thought of what that does to the local product. Have a look at the cost of a Piper Cub, since they are being built as LSA, who'd have thougth that an aircraft sold for a few 100 dollars years ago would be selling for 20x+ that amount today. What was a 150 worth new all those years ago compared to whats on offer today(remember, don't just be blinded by homeland values - you really need to look outside your shores for a little global relaity).

Look, I don't mean to burst your bubble or be disrespectful an any way, but, if I had the resourses, I'd be snapping up all your cheap 150 over there and bring them back here for when the LSA (or should I say our RAA) rules change to include up to 700KG here, 150/152's and the like are going to go through the roof in price - in some respects its alreay happened in anticipation of the move. Once you can look after the maintenance yourself under the new rules here, why would I buy a cessna 162 for 130K Aus, when I could buy 150/152 including Aerobat models for less than half the price. The only thing your competing with is those who want something "NEW" and who can afford it. For some reason, people see NEW as better, I think we know that's not necessarly the case, but "NEW" sells

The only thing holding back prices in the US on 150/152's is you - but mark my words, should the maintanence/licensing rules change over there for you, and / or once the 162 has had a chance to sell properly your planes will begin to skyrocket - standby, for what will eventually happen there, as its happened all over the rest of the world without you noticing.

OK, I'm done, I didn't mean to offend in any way, but looking in from the outside (as I can), it's just sometimes I think some of you forget there is a whole big world out there outside of you most eastern and western shores......

Cheers..... and be gentle with your replies I know I might cop a bit kicking for what I have said......and no offence intended..truley

Matt, you say the LSA is going to 700KG? I thought that was determined by an international body or something.

Geo.

George,

G'day,

Well, our own Local Body (Recreational Aviation Australia) is responsible for lobbying for rule changes etc etc, and our Civil Avaiation Authority seem pretty happy to hand it over - as it would seem, to be self regulatory. What would happen (as I understand it) would be that once brought into play, all you need to do is change the aircraft REGO to RAA (which is numbers in stead of VH) put a sticker on the panel limiting the takeoff info to 700KG and your away. A similar thing happend with lighter aircraft (Piper Cup/Aeronca etc) you offically state in the log book and flight manual that the aicraft is limited to a particular wieght and your away - now, in reality, if you took of over weight, no one would know until there was an accident, then you face the music - similar I guess to our 150/150 drivers who may (or may not) take off in questionable circumstances.

The Aeronca I used to fly, had a sticker on panel stating "Maximum Take-off Weight 544KG" did anyone ever check to see if that was the case.....who knows..

Hey, just a thought, but I can see it coming - the push is already on by the powers that be, and, hoplfully will be in place within 12-18 months with any luck - time will tell

Cheers

As I understand it, our FAA's original NPRM in 2002 called for a LSA maximum takeoff weight of 1,232 pounds (560 kilograms) for landplanes.

I believe most of the rest of the world has already adopted a standard of 1540 lb (700 kg) but I'm having difficulty confirming this, so I'm probably wrong!

The FAA eventually set a compromise 1320 lb (600 kg) as the max takeoff weight for LSA landplanes. The published FAA position I think was supposedly to stimulate new technology and production in the new LSA industry, without favoring existing airframe manufacturers by grandfathering in a preponderance of existing designs, such as early Cessna 150's with a 1,500 lb max gross weight.

I may be all wet in all of this!

Carl, you are spot on. The ability to "put a sticker on limiting the weight...." was precluded in the U.S. by the authorizing language in the LSA rules which stated "continuously certificated". The LSA authorization was clearly designed by the FAA to help create new manufacture of aircraft. The EAA was aware of the late change in the wording adding the "continuously certificated", but conspicuously choose not to alert their membership for the same reason - they wanted the rules written that way. New manufacture means new advertising. The LSA bill changed materially in the last 30 prior to implementation to preclude almost all existing light aircraft for a reason. Anyone who believes that the FAA is going to raise the weight limit is dreaming. It's a nice dream, but not going to happen.

The previous owners of my plane, "Fly by Nighters Flying Club." I kid you not!