| | Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 51 Member | | Member Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 51 | Just listed on trade-a-plane tonight, I though you guys would find it interesting: http://tappix.com/769631 | | | | | Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 14,793 Likes: 550 Member/10,000+ posts! | | Member/10,000+ posts! Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 14,793 Likes: 550 | "Experimental Exhibition" - legally, this plane can't be flown except to/from airshows or demos.
Also, that Subaru engine dropped a valve in '98 and the plane nosed over during the subsequent emergency landing in a soft field.
And 1500 lbs empty? You couldn't even fill the tanks and be legal!
It certainly sounds neat, and I like the Eggenfellner Subaru engine conversions that are built for the Van's RV aircraft. But I think this particular airplane has too many compromises and limitations.
-Kirk Wennerstrom
President, Cessna 150-152 Fly-In Foundation
1976 Cessna Cardinal RG N7556V
Hangar D1, Bridgeport, CT KBDR
| | | | | Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 12,760 Member/10,000+ posts! | | Member/10,000+ posts! Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 12,760 | Naw. 
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| | | | | Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 2,525 Member/2500+posts | | Member/2500+posts Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 2,525 | I'm not so sure it says empty weight of 1500 IBS,, It says "take off" weight followed by the performance results. Not that I know much about these things,, But typrical engine is about 250 IBS,, take that off your 150,, Now add in a Subaru,, weighting in at about 265,, to create new empty weight,, so still about back to the same spot you started from with 0-200 engine.
Lionel, and my 1974 150L C-FETZ
| | | | | Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 13,969 Member/10,000+ posts! | | Member/10,000+ posts! Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 13,969 | I'm not so sure it says empty weight of 1500 IBS,, It says "take off" weight followed by the performance results. Not that I know much about these things,, But typrical engine is about 250 IBS,, take that off your 150,, Now add in a Subaru,, weighting in at about 265,, to create new empty weight,, so still about back to the same spot you started from with 0-200 engine.
With 180 horsepower out there in front? WHO CARES about a few measly extra pounds!  .........Stroking my chin..............hmmmmmmmmm..........Thinking what Mr. Ed could do with even 30 more horsepower.......eyes sparkling........    | | | | | Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 51 Member | | Member Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 51 | This is the only accident/incident info I could find on the A/C I couldn't find the '98 accident and with only 181 SNEW do you think it was the same engine or am I reading that wrong?
#FAA1
Accident/Incident Occurred on: 1975-01-14
Narrative: MAIL FLT.ACFT SLID L DRG TKOF,BECAME AIRBORNE,SETTLED.
#FAA2
Accident/Incident Occurred on: 1979-02-24
Narrative: WINDSHIELD FOGGED UP DUE TO INOP HEATER. LANDED LONG AFTER APPROACH AND RAN OFF DEPARTURE END OF RUNWAY.
#FAA3
Accident/Incident Occurred on: 1979-03-03
Narrative: CARGO DOOR OPENED ON TAKEOFF AND CARGO FELL OUT. CARGO HANDLER DID NOT LATCH DOOR PROPERLY.
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| | | | | Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 14,793 Likes: 550 Member/10,000+ posts! | | Member/10,000+ posts! Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 14,793 Likes: 550 | This is the only accident/incident info I could find on the A/C I couldn't find the '98 accident and with only 181 SNEW do you think it was the same engine or am I reading that wrong? Here's the other accident. And you're right - the engine was most likely replaced since then. http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/brief.asp?ev_id=20001211X09614&key=1Accident occurred Tuesday, February 24, 1998 in FIFE, WA Probable Cause Approval Date: 12/8/1998 Aircraft: Cessna 150F, registration: N8794G Injuries: 2 Uninjured. The Subaru Legacy powered Cessna 150 experienced a partial loss of engine power about 30 minutes after takeoff. Soon thereafter, the engine lost all power, and the pilot executed a forced landing in a nearby field. Although the touchdown was successful, the nose gear dug into the soft terrain as the pilot applied brakes to stop short of an upcoming ditch. After the nose gear dug into the terrain, the aircraft flipped over onto its back. A teardown of the engine revealed that the head had fractured off one of the exhaust valves in the forward left cylinder, resulting in the destruction of the piston. The National Transportation Safety Board determines the probable cause(s) of this accident as follows: The fracture separation of an exhaust valve head, followed by the total failure of the associated piston. A factor was the soft terrain at the location of the forced landing.
-Kirk Wennerstrom
President, Cessna 150-152 Fly-In Foundation
1976 Cessna Cardinal RG N7556V
Hangar D1, Bridgeport, CT KBDR
| | | | | Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 18,962 Likes: 3 Member/15,000 posts | | Member/15,000 posts Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 18,962 Likes: 3 | I'm amazed at this thread!  Would anyone on this forum actually consider buying this aircraft? Especially at a $39,500.00 asking price? But then, I know people who ruin perfectly good vintage Fords by putting Chevy big blocks in them, too!  | | | | | Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 15,903 Likes: 999 Member/15,000 posts | | Member/15,000 posts Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 15,903 Likes: 999 |
Ron Stewart N5282B KSFZ ![[Linked Image from visitedstatesmap.com]](https://www.visitedstatesmap.com/image/CTILINIAMEMANHNJNYOHPARIVTWVsm.jpg) | | | | | Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 3,062 Visit Put-In-Bay!! Member/2500+posts | | Visit Put-In-Bay!! Member/2500+posts Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 3,062 | But then, I know people who [color:"red"] ruin [/color] perfectly good vintage Fords by putting Chevy big blocks in them, too! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" /> I know you meant to say Improve, didn't you Carl?? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> Ron That what I was going to say! I take the Ford engines out of my demolition derby cars and drop in my "top secret" Chevy 350 small block. Ford tough with Chevy stuff!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
-Bryan
U.S.C.G. licensed captain
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