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That just may be Gremlin's Gremlin!

Good one, Tim.

[quote}That just may be Gremlin's Gremlin!

Good one, Tim. [/quote]
That's an interesting philosophical question. Do gremlins have gremlins?

Hello??? People??? Exhaust talk is wondeful...may I bring you back to my question? (ya, I know...it' all about me)

Whaddaya think??
66 150F [hillsdaleaero.com]

The engine was a complete overhaul in 1979 (!!) by Kal Aero (now Duncan Aviation) in Kalamazoo. 317 Hours in 28 years...altough the comprssion numbers were all in the 70's at the last annual. The seller referred to the "if it ain't broke" way of thinking.

I hate the colour combo (it's original)...but it does look clean on the outside and the inside.

The original question brings up a philosopihcal question. This is something I've wandered about while reading over the forums. From my perspective, if I was to answer your question,, the answer is based in part by my "personnal preference" and I'm not sure that potential buyers get a real fair assesment on their question as a result. Let me use this as an "analogy". Imagine going to a car lot,, with 20 people to make a purchase,, I wander how long it would take to actually make a decision to buy? Here is what I would answer to any and all potential buyers,, Firstly establish what you are clearly looking for,, old/new, o time, run out ect,, old paint, new paint, and the list goes on,, once you established that,, you now need to determine the current price for the airplane your looking for,, Third,, establish how the airplane will be paid for,, in other words, some type of cash in hand, next locate and secure the best mechanic you can find. Now you're equiped to go out and find what you are looking for,, once you find the airplane,, off you go with your mechanic,, ensuring good inspection, cheking for all required items,, lastly paying for it. I'm sure many will jump in on my post,, good and bad. Personnaly,, and this is my "personnal preference" I would never purchase anything older then 1970,, does this mean that their aren't fantastic pre 70's,, No,there are many, and many provide great vehicles to their owners. Rob, my question is not really directed at you or your question,, maybe more of a bigger question for all owners to think about, as we answer questions like yours,, Personnaly, I've been flying for close to 28 years now,, owned a few,, now currently flying a 150, Did I get what I was looking for, yes exactly,, did I pay extra for what I was looking for,, Yes I did, would I do it any diffrent if I was to buy it again,, nope.

Just curious, Lionel, why do you draw the line at 1970?

Bill, no real reason,, other then to promote how we at times will answer these question,, and going back over posts, there is " some bias to personnal preference" Honestly,, don't tell anyone this,, I'll deny it,, Now if there was a pre 70's 150 with a 150 hp, long range tanks, full avionics stack low time and newer paint,, probably wouldn't take much arm twisting to get my interest,, Is the year a real consideration in making a decision,, no, and if it is,, it should have very little weighting,, Bill, hope I answered your question, I"m trying to promote a philosiphical debate regarding the original question, One that I've wandered about many times as I've seen posts like these.

Lionel,
I agree with you. It is always a personnal preference when buying
a plane, or anything else for that matter.
I have noticed, more times than I will admit, the "What do you think of this one" question asked on this board that others
have said to leave alone and I would have taken a closser look at.

Let's face it, when buying a plane it is just a crap shoot.
There are no guarantees except the one that says you will spend more $$ once you buy it.

Rob,
It is good to ask about what you should look for as far as known trouble areas.

Just find one you like and go for it!

Ron

Rob, It seems you have concern about the lack of hours on the engine since it was rebuilt. This could be justified but an inspection by a good mechanic could help you decide. I took a gamble on my plane when the engine had only 670 hours in 18 years. 2.2 hours in the last 3 years as it sat outside. Ended up replacing one cylinder, all the hoses, baffles, and a muffler due to age. Running good and compressions very good. Without a good 3rd party inspection you will not know and the issues found may not even be engine related.

Yes you did Lionel. Like I said, I was just curious. We all have our personal biases and preferences. To me, the perfect 150 would be a fast back with the straight tail, manual flaps, 12 volts, and spring steel gear. With the baggage area, interior room, bucket seats and instrument layout of the newer 150's. The MGW of the 152 with the 125 HP Franklin engine for added horsepower without the weight penality of the Lycoming. Of course, that would be staying in the basic design of the 150/152. To step out of that a lil bit, 150/160 HP and long range tanks would have to be included! Tail Dragger would have to also be an option!

Bill, there you go,, I can't say as I dislike your bias,, specially the 160 hp, tail wheel,, But in all honesty,, I do beleive you have missed 1 item,, and the floats to complete the look