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I think I might sell my plane but it is out of annual.
Is it necessary to have it annualed before I try to sell it?




Thanks, Dalton

Your plane doesn't HAVE to have a current annual to be sold. But "out of annual" might raise a red flag to some potential buyers. On the other hand, some buyers (like me) negotiated with the seller to split the cost of an annual in lieu of a pre-buy inspection.

I would maybe price out what an inspection only annual done, and if fails at least you will have a squawk list. Plus, if it passes then it's ready to go for the next guy.

I'm sure it would be helpful with the sale either way

The value of the plane usually goes down if out of annual. There are some buyers that prefer to do a pre purchase/ annual with the purchase,which is negotiable with who pays what.

Dalton,

My 2 cents...

Lots of "first time aircraft buyers" look to 150s. Most will not understand the subtle nuance of a plane being out of annual....they may just see NOT AIRWORTHY and keep swiping for a similar plane they can go test fly tomorrow.

We all know some annuals are a pencil-whip, but we learned that later.

I would do the annual and tack it on the price and advertise they can "fly it away."

Opinions will certainly vary on this and that's ok!

Best wishes on your sale and hope you stay friends with the 150 Club of America!

Thanks, Mike.

I am going to have to get my plane 60 miles to an airport where I can have the annual performed.

It will cost me around $1000

I will have to get a ferry permit and a pilot for the trip

But, I guess it will all be worth it..

Dalton

Dalton - I PM'd you

It's hard to imagine anyone seriously thinking of buying a plane that they'd be unable to test fly - or, if not yet a pilot, have a pilot test fly it for them. I certainly wouldn't.

Roy

My plane has been sold.


Dalton

Congratulations....I think!

The good thing about selling it to my nephew is, you guessed it, I stll get to fly her.

That's brilliant! We should all be so fortunate! Great outcome, Dalton!

Thanks, Mike

I have often thought that you have the perfect situation. You have your own plane and you are in thr Air Force. Are you a pilot in the Air Force?
Do you get to take an F35 home with you at night? (just kidding)

Dalton

Mike's Air Force rank is high enough that he might be able to take his "work plane" home, but the AC-130 Hercules [youtube.com]is a little too big for his garage, and it's armed with some big guns. That might alarm the local police.

C-130's have always been one of my favorite planes.

That was a great video. Thanks, Hung

Thanks Dalton!

I was in the USAF for 27 years, then retired from active duty, and now I'm in the Army for the last 15 years as a Department of the Army Civilian. 42 years total....

It was a career OF a lifetime but not FOR a lifetime so I am nearing retirement soon...

I have owned my Cessna 150 for 28 years! Eleven years while on Air Force active duty and the rest while a Dept of the Army Civilian.

The challenge of ownership on active duty was the moving to new bases, some overseas, and all the wars we deployed to for lengthy periods....I would often go for long stretches leaving the plane. Flying the Cessna got more steady after the Air Force...

The USAF flying was both exhilarating and at times terrifying. The totality of the experience was something I'd never change, bad times and all. Well, maybe a few of the bad times....

I was in C-130s like Mark Buchner, doing airdrop and then most of my time was in the AC-130s for close air support and troops in contact fires.

Also did time as a logistician, mishap investigator, forward air controller (TACP) on the ground, a commander a few times, a base opening specialist (in contested and austere conditions), Air Force One Advance Team, and a professor at National Defense University and now at the Army War College.

Accomplished nothing remarkable or of significance but made a lot of good friends in bad places.

My luck bad is now empty but my judgement bag is full.

Hope to keep flying as long as possible!

It all sounds remarkable to me.

I was 3A and about to go in the service and then I got married so I never was in the service.

I have always kind of regretted that. Regretted not going in the service, not getting married.

What other military planes did you possibly fly?

Dalton

Like a lot of guys my favorite fighter is the F-16

I joke around with my fighter buddies....

"Fighter pilots make movies....Attack aviators make history."

Joking of course but deepest respect! A guy I'm now working with just finished commanding the Aggressor Squadron at Nellis AFB...their mission in F-16's is to humble everyone else and they do a pretty good job!


The F-16 is the (free) world's most popular fighter...along with the F-15 and now the F-35 is replacing them slowly but steadily.


The AC-130 has been around since Vietnam and continues to be popular with ground parties as it has long loiter time, lots of ammo, can fire very close to friendlies, has all weather capability, and can talk to multiple ground and air elements simultaneously. It's basically flying artillery and does well in complex urban areas as well as out in the country...

The down sides are obvious...it's vulnerable to ever evolving advanced missiles....the air environment is rapidly becoming unsurvivable for older aircraft...thus our unpopular but necessary retirement of the A-10, another beautifully ugly killer.

Congratulations on the sale from a former C130 E loadmaster

They keep saying they are going to retire the A-10 but yet they have deployed it to the Strait of Hormuz. While old it’s still fills a role that no other aircraft can quite manage to fill. Plus the best part is after the enemy sees it in action they fear it. If you have ever seen one in real life action you will understand why. When the A-10 rolls out on a target and lets loose it’s a sight no one forgets nor do they forget the sound of it.

I have seen this several times and it still makes me laugh!

Thanks John!

Yes! Still a great and capable aircraft if you establish air superiority or supremacy in a conflict...

We all love it, but...

The USAF has to make financial trade-offs. With a limited budget do we buy the newer aircraft and keep supporting the legacy aircraft knowing we can't afford both? That is the conundrum.

Believe me, it broke my heart to part with my 1955 Buick but I couldn't afford that old beauty AND my 1976 Cessna! Something had to give! Same type of Hobson's Choise!

Most of us in the AF or retired LOVE the Warthog!

I had the same choice when my father passed away and I could inherit his sailboat, a 32' Columbia Sabre. He bought it when my mom was pregnant with me so I've literally been sailing since before I was born. But when I ran the numbers I quickly realized I couldn't afford two mistresses. While *I* really enjoyed sailing the Sabre, it was built more for speed than comfort so it really wasn't a family machine like my current plane. Reluctantly, I sold it.

Some of us more than others. Like me, the first USAF Airman to touch an A-10 with a wrench

At least I can still "fly" my DCS A-10 Flight Sim [digitalcombatsimulator.com] and blow up things whenever I want.

YouTube Video of DCS A-10 Flight Sim [youtube.com]

Wow, Mark!

That's really something!

Very cool you got to work on them in the 1900's!

That was pre-computer days in "the real Air Force." Ha ha!

Good on 'ya!

My very own personalized C-17.

...I wish...

They use to make those in Long Beach, CA... can't tell how many times I heard, "Cessna thaareeeee nineer five, ka-leared for Long Beach thaareeee -zeero, cautionwaketrubalncec17departingrunway30."

Here is the last one leaving...