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He bought it from a person that died a short time ago............. I really don't know what condition the was previously, that's something that would have to be determine from the log books. The plane has TT 1800 and 5 hrs smoh. The engine was rebuilt by a shop in his area. I do not know the terms very well, but he reskined entirely the plane, put new windows, seats, carpet, wheels, plastics, screws, rebuilt propeller and painted it. It really looks very nice, but has only few hours flying.

This all bothers me. It could very well be OK but the person who owned this airplane let it sit for YEARS and YEARS without flying it. It corroded so badly that the skin had to be replaced. Might have even had holes corroded thru it. There has been discussion here and on the Yahoo group about this just in the past week and what I am wondering was how badly the airplane was corroded and what was NOT replaced. Somewhere along the line, the mechanic had to make a judgement call about where to quit replacing and start covering with paint. What is hidden inside in the way of corrosion and deteriotation that you cannot see.

Another big question is did the person replacing the skins, especially on the wings, have the jigs to do this properly or did they just do it without the jigs. You can easily get away without jigs on the fuselage if you are just replacing skin due to corrosion, you use the old one for a pattern and it fits perfectly (I had a friend do this on a 182) Wings are a different story, you could use existing skins for patterns (including holes) but you really need that jig to get the washout in the wing just right. Ask how he did the reskin and what he replaced.

Low time airframe means little or nothing in this case. There are 5000 hr airframes that might be in better condition, you just don't know.

Get a real good off field mechanic and have him throughly go thru it. Someone like Carl who will take the time to go thru and look for hidden "treasures" you don't want.

The logs in this case won't tell you much about the previous condition. They may give you an idea of how long it sat from the previous annual, thats about it.

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Good points, thank you,

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Forgot to mention, there should be FAA form 337's completed for most of this reskinning and possibly some of the other work. You need to review these with the pre-buy mechanic and get his opinion of the completemess of the form and the work done. Completeness of the logs is essential in this case.

Depending on how long the aircraft sat un-operated, you should also look at whether flight instruments were replaced or inspected/repaired/overhauled by a FAA certified repair station (CRS), instrument rated. I'm refering all of the instruments on the pilots panel. Not really interested in fuel gauges, oil press and temp, they either work or they don't and they generally are not real accurate anyhow. You should look for "yellow tags" or FAA form 8130's for all parts and he should be able to produce receipts for virtually all parts.

Another consideration is if exterior plastic was replaced, or simply patched up and painted over. See what was replaced, wingtips, elevator and stab tips, vert fin cap and rudder top and bottom caps.

If you ask why I suddenly became so concerned about all of this, it was the mere mention of reskinning that threw up the red flag. Either this airplane suffered from considerable exterior corrosion, or was a damaged, project wannabe that the former owner never got around to completing. In either case, it warrants a very close look all all parts of the aircraft and paperwork.

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I too spent 25k for my plane. 19K upfront and another 6k when I discovered a loose through-bolt on the #4 cylinder, (ok, add in a rebuilt carb, starter and hooker harnesses).

Bottom line, you are dead on!


Greg
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