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I know the same guy Jim does. He's a smart dude and his suggestions are good.

I found Wilbur in Cleveland Ohio. The owner agreed to meet me halfway so my mechanic and I flew up one morning, spent a few hours with the airplane and flew back that evening. If I remember correctly, he charged me about $300. So, along with the fuel that I spent, it was a pretty cost-effective way of evaluating the airplane.

Although I would have liked to have purchased him for a lower price, I figured that each time I go look at an airplane I'll spend hundreds or more doing it. It can really add up. The most important thing is to get a good airplane. I figured that the price of the airplane down the road wouldn't matter to me that much.

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Originally Posted by Jim_Hillabrand
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Now, if the plane was brought to you and the inspection goes well, you buy the plane and pay for his ticket home (or split it) and you're money ahead??


....and my CFII brother is still available for a couple weeks to ferry-fly for expenses only. wink



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Ok - It sold this morning to a club member. I'll let him reveal who he is if he so desires.


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Great news!


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that's great news Anthony. Congrats on the sale.

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Congrats Anthony! Glad you were able to find someone who appreciates value.

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Congrats Anthony. My runway has finally passed the bidding process and they're starting the extension tomorrow morning. I'm super glad you sold it even though I'm a little sad I wasn't faster and bought it myself. At least it's staying in the club!! Congrats again.


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Originally Posted by Jim_Hillabrand
Originally Posted by Carlos_Rodriguez
Of course my problem is the distance so the logistics add up.



I think I know a guy from Arkansas who bought a 150-150 with LR tanks and the Horton STOL kit up in Alaska a couple years ago.

And about 10 years ago, I think that same guy and his wife flew commercially from Arkansas to Sacramento to inspect a 152 which was a total bust but two weeks later he was in Cleveland where he found "the right" 152 and flew it home.

East Texas to New York just ain't much of a hike for the right plane.

As you shop around looking at planes, you're going to kiss a lot of frogs as you search and search. There's a lot of used junk out there, AKA the Sacramento 152.....they are everywhere.

Ideally, a buyer finds the right plane in his own backyard and life is good but the odds are against that. As the fleet continues to age, finding "the right" plane is becoming more difficult as the passage of time is taking its toll.

I don't have a horse in this race but if you pay the 2k - 3k price of admission for a plane that's being sold under "market value" (whatever that is) and you end up buying that plane, don't you end up with a plane that is close to the perceived market value?

Maybe your biggest risk is spending the 2k - 3k and end up walking away because you found an issue or two that can't be resolved, AKA Sacramento again?

The cost of your pre-buy using your IA is going to remain consistent regardless of the 150/152 she inspects. It's the travel expenses that are the wild card.

Now, if the plane was brought to you and the inspection goes well, you buy the plane and pay for his ticket home (or split it) and you're money ahead??

Just my 2 penny's worth which buys food for thought.



Jim





Yes, some people even buy it sight unseen. I sold my experimental to a pilot a few states away. He only saw the pictures I sent him and all the logs and everything I had scanned. He sent me $10k deposit and when the guy with the delivery trailer showed up to take it apart and deliver it to him he called the buyer and told him everything looks like in the pictures. So the buyer wired the other $10k into my bank and I helped take it apart and load it.

I would NEVER do that but some people are crazier than even me. laugh

If after I've seen the logs (seller can scan and email them for my IA to review) that takes a lot of unknowns off the table. Then with pictures or even better Facetime or Skype we can practically do a pre-buy over the internet. By then it's really easy and while I order a Title Search the seller flies it here and in a matter of a couple of hours to make sure the A&P looks in places we haven't been able to look and that's it!

I'll not only pay for his trip back home, he'll stay in my motorhome and save on hotel plus he can eat with us. If you ever visit me you'll see that if my girlfriend opened a restaurant I wouldn't have to work anymore. *** As soon as the runway is ready every club member is officially invited to visit. ***

Of course, as you say, there are lots of crappy planes out there and I'll ad there are lots of scam artist sellers. I was looking at an awesome plane last night and today I found an NTSB report stating substantial damage, but the ad says No Damage History. I even found another website where the plane was offered for sale just 3 months before the crash. It's got a beautiful new paint job and interior now but who knows how they fixed it. That takes a good IA and pre-buy inspection.


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This buyer won't be disappointed. I will miss flying this airplane - it fly's really good and is in great condition. I had a thorough pre-buy done when I got it.

Best wishes in your search.

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I'm sure yours is good and the buyer will love it, if not I wouldn't have so interested in it. I just snoozed and lost it because I was debating longer runway & 100hp 150 or leave runway as it was and 150/150. Well I ended up with both a runway extension project and looking for a 150/150.


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