| Joined: Sep 2014 Posts: 1,763 Likes: 1 Member/1500+posts | Member/1500+posts Joined: Sep 2014 Posts: 1,763 Likes: 1 | I've tried flying both ways... And with my pants off I feel a great draft. Generally brings strange looks from the ramp crew to as they see the struggle in the cockpit when I try to put them back on before deplaning. Let's Fly...Naked! 
Former Owner Of 1971 Cessna 150L N1471Q ... 71 Quebec Eh?! (It's a Canadian thing  ) Ocala, Florida KOCF [ Linked Image]
| | | | Joined: Jan 2015 Posts: 124 Member/100+posts | Member/100+posts Joined: Jan 2015 Posts: 124 | He wants $85 to ship from MD to OH, which as someone who ships hundreds of parcels every week.... that's a rip. | | | | Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 13,969 Member/10,000+ posts! | Member/10,000+ posts! Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 13,969 | He wants $85 to ship from MD to OH, which as someone who ships hundreds of parcels every week.... that's a rip. Maybe request of him to use your shipping terms if you can get it done cheaper??? I worked up a UPS shipping estimate from Maryland to here in Oregon for three packages 18"X18"X48" at 8# each and it came to $300 plus, where the seller quoted $180? Bill | | | | Joined: Apr 2004 Posts: 4,204 Likes: 1 Member/2500+posts | Member/2500+posts Joined: Apr 2004 Posts: 4,204 Likes: 1 | Wheel pants are a matter of personal preference. I have them on now and admit they look nice; but they can be a pain. I frequently bruise my shins on them and as I get older checking tire pressure becomes too much of a chore. Since I've never noticed any significant speed increase with them, they're staying off after annual this year. | | | | Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 2,600 Member/2500+posts | Member/2500+posts Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 2,600 | If you are looking for a speed improvement with wheel pants, forget it. Not quite true, with the 100HP 150 the gain may not have been significant, but notable. Definitely notable with the 150/150. Nick is a new owner, a student pilot and lives in the snow belt of Ohio, and does not have a 150/150. He has a 1959 model with a climb prop. a 2 knot increase in speed is not worth the expense, based on my experience..
Pants will also cut your useful load. By the book, yes, but if 18 pounds is going to make or break having a safe flight, it would be best just to stay on the ground anyways. 18 pounds is 3 gallons of fuel, something nice for a student to have. we have no idea as to the weight of his instructor. $150 also buys a bunch of fuel. One cross country flight? Otherwise $150 for the pants, $100+ for mounting brackets and probably $100+ for shipping, ($200 to the west coast. ) $350 will buy a lot of fuel for a student pilot. Wheel pants also run up hours spent during an annual. remove them before taking your airplane in? On an owner assisted annual it wouldn't make an difference. 
Yes it will. With all due respect, this is where you are totally wrong. Installation and removal of the nose wheel flaring requires the partial dis-assembly of the nose gear, deflation of the strut and disconnecting the torque links. As an owner of a '59, I have been there and am most familiar with the process. Mine are gathering dust.
Nick needs guidance from '59 model owners. Another advantage is they they are a matched set! They might be a matched set, but they are not for a 1959! As a long time owner of a 1959 model also in a snow belt in Ohio, I can say from experience that wheel pants on a '59 in Ohio are a pain in the "arse". You obliviously have never experienced what happens when the Winter slush freezes inside a wheel pant. It is even more exciting when all 3 freeze up.
Your comments may be applicable to your 150, however, from my years of experience with a '59 model, I must respectively disagree with your comments as applied to a 1959 model. [ Linked Image] Bill | | | | Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 13,969 Member/10,000+ posts! | Member/10,000+ posts! Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 13,969 | OOPS, I apologize Barney for I did not realize that we were confining our comments strictly to the 1959 model. The nose pant on our 150 may take an extra 5 minutes or so on and off. What is different with the 1959 nose wheel pant that requires the deflation of the strut and disconnecting of the torque links? Oh, other advantages, the front tire is protected from the oil dripping from the O-200 and tires last longer being protected from the sun! Bill | | | | Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 12,000 Likes: 425 Member/10,000+ posts! | Member/10,000+ posts! Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 12,000 Likes: 425 | My A&P said he'd divorce me if I put the wheel pants back on.
David Rowland 7CO0 | | | | Joined: Jan 2015 Posts: 5,096 Likes: 21 Member/5000+posts! | Member/5000+posts! Joined: Jan 2015 Posts: 5,096 Likes: 21 | ....and tires last longer being protected from the sun! Bill That's my motivation for ours, especially when parked outside. Right now the snow is an issue... But I might put them back on anyway.
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| | | | Joined: Jan 2014 Posts: 1,752 Member/1500+posts | Member/1500+posts Joined: Jan 2014 Posts: 1,752 | tires last longer being protected from the sun! It doesn't matter how good the top 3/4 of the tire may be when the bottom 1/4 is dead. Tires last longer when proper pressure is maintained in them than they do from being kept out of the sun. I've never seen a plane tied down with all three tire stems poking out under wheel pants. And I've seen a lot of planes with wheel pants and a tire that's "just a little" soft. That one more reason NOT to mount them. I don't see enough reasons TO mount them, even if there were no reason not to. | | | | Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 2,600 Member/2500+posts | Member/2500+posts Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 2,600 | OOPS, I apologize Barney for I did not realize that we were confining our comments strictly to the 1959 model. The nose pant on our 150 may take an extra 5 minutes or so on and off. What is different with the 1959 nose wheel pant that requires the deflation of the strut and disconnecting of the torque links? See section 5-32 items a through f in the Service Manual (59-63 models) for details. Then compare the procedure to that for your year and model. Most likely the size of the opening.Oh, other advantages, the front tire is protected from the oil dripping from the O-200 and tires last longer being protected from the sun! Modify your oil breather fitting and eliminate the oil drips. How long is longer? Bill | | |
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