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Re: 4 place 152? Tim_Jodice #42979 04/04/06 03:10 PM
Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 7,197 Likes: 2 Medford, Oregon Dan Member/5000+posts!
Dan Member/5000+posts! Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 7,197 Likes: 2 Medford, Oregon	I have owned a model M 172 and now a model F 150 and... IMHO: The 172 is a more versitile, comfortable airplane and costs no more to maintain than its smaller sibling. Fuel burn isn't much different at similiar airspeeds but of course the 172 will go faster if you want to feed it. I would't even consider the smaller airplane for a growing family of 4. You'd find yourself flying alone or not at all having to worry about comfort, load capacity, and performance considerations. As for buying a 152 and renting a 172...WHY? (sorry fellas) that just doesn't make any sense to me. Buy a 152 and rent a 206 now and then, sure, but the difference in cost of ownership between the two is a Reallybignumber! 152 vs. 172 = A few bucks vs. Lots of advantages. Of course, either way, you are required to remain a member of this club!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> Dan Civilization is the limitless multiplication of unnecessary necessities. (Mark Twain)

Re: 4 place 152? Dan #42980 04/04/06 03:44 PM
Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 4,968 Washington (the other one) J Jeff Davis Member/2500+posts
Jeff Davis Member/2500+posts J Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 4,968 Washington (the other one)	Quote I have owned a model M 172 and now a model F 150 and... IMHO: The 172 is a more versitile, comfortable airplane and costs no more to maintain than its smaller sibling. Fuel burn isn't much different at similiar airspeeds but of course the 172 will go faster if you want to feed it. I would't even consider the smaller airplane for a growing family of 4. You'd find yourself flying alone or not at all having to worry about comfort, load capacity, and performance considerations. As for buying a 152 and renting a 172...WHY? (sorry fellas) that just doesn't make any sense to me. Buy a 152 and rent a 206 now and then, sure, but the difference in cost of ownership between the two is a Reallybignumber! 152 vs. 172 = A few bucks vs. Lots of advantages. Of course, either way, you are required to remain a member of this club!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> I agree with you Dan on everything except acquisition costs. Unless you are getting an early model 172 (O-300 powered), the acquisition costs are bordering on gold plated for a 172 (which seems odd considering their numbers). I was looking for a nice early 70's 172, and they were generally at or above a Cardinal with 180 hp and CS prop. The Cardinal has all the benefits in handling and fun factor that the 150/152 does, and will outperform a 172 (plus they look sexy), but I wasn't wanting to spend $50-75,000...so I am living with a Cherokee ($28-$40K for 150 or 160 hp and $38-50K for 180 hp). I will miss two doors, and the better interior space, but hey...I can haul half a ton in the Cherokee 180...no wait...MORE than half a ton. Anyway...all that to say, acquisition cost differential would pay for a lot of rental fees and 152 fuel when comparing a 172 to a 150/152.

Re: 4 place 152? Tim_Jodice #42981 04/04/06 08:51 PM
Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 10 Windsor, VT JeffPage Member
JeffPage Member Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 10 Windsor, VT	Please take my (free) advice as just that. I?m a 40 hour student pilot and thought about buying a four seat plane to accommodate my family but ended up buying a two seat 152. My instructor suggested that before making the decision on which plane to buy I should consider inviting a couple of the family members along on some of our cross-country flights in the FBO's 172. It was great advice. I found that my wife and oldest son(15) were pretty much indifferent to flying. My youngest son(12), on the other hand, couldn?t get enough and wants to fly every chance he gets. I was shocked. I really thought the whole family would be jazzed on flying, but it just wasn?t the case. I gave it a few months, but it became very clear that all I really need is two seats and heat. In my opinion a 152 is more fun to fly then a 172 which made my choice easy. -jeff

Re: 4 place 152? JeffPage #42982 04/04/06 11:02 PM
Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 11 ASH T Tim_Jodice Member
Tim_Jodice Member T Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 11 ASH	You guys are great thank you for all your input I think I am going to do exactly what Jeff Page did and go from there.

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