| | Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 25,416 Likes: 998 Member/25,000 posts | | Member/25,000 posts Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 25,416 Likes: 998 | other than it's sans engine and wings at the moment. I meant wings unattached at the moment....sorry to disturb this exclusive club.....won't happen again!!!!! If "sans" means unattached, then does it mean the engine is available but unattached too? I only read what you wrote; I can't read your mind. | | | | | Joined: Jan 2012 Posts: 2,326 Member/1500+posts | | Member/1500+posts Joined: Jan 2012 Posts: 2,326 | Sans means without, but I asked just to clarify to help get a better picture.
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1965 C150E N3952U
ASEL IFR A&P
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| | | | | Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 25,416 Likes: 998 Member/25,000 posts | | Member/25,000 posts Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 25,416 Likes: 998 | That's what I remember from my French lessons over 35 years ago, but maybe it means "unattached" to some people.  | | | | | Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 9,805 Likes: 114 Member/7500+posts | | Member/7500+posts Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 9,805 Likes: 114 | The adult version of a three year old's temper tantrum. It happens to the best of us. | | | | | Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 15,885 Likes: 994 Member/15,000 posts | | Member/15,000 posts Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 15,885 Likes: 994 | Funny how rumors start, I NEVER said it didn't have wings, that was an assumption from up the thread.
Well, to those trying to answer my question, thanks..... I asked the question about the wings missing or not in the 5th post after your original. Never got an answer so I can see how others assumed. Kieth, This is not the exclusive club that belittles others by any stretch. I am sure any smart a$s answers were just in fun and that is hard to convey on a forum with just typed words. I think you have received some good answers from some great people. Don't know what else you are looking for. 
Ron Stewart N5282B KSFZ ![[Linked Image from visitedstatesmap.com]](https://www.visitedstatesmap.com/image/CTILINIAMEMANHNJNYOHPARIVTWVsm.jpg) | | | | | Joined: Apr 2006 Posts: 9,272 Likes: 153 Member/7500+posts | | Member/7500+posts Joined: Apr 2006 Posts: 9,272 Likes: 153 | I think from my yiddish lessons i remember that Sans means,
"I have wings, but they're not installed on the plane at the moment, but I'm not going to say that and you have to figure out what I mean, so I can get mad when you try"
My wife is really fluent at yiddish...... I spent 3 years in New York and came to really appreciate the cultural humor built into the language ...
TD
| | | | | Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 15,885 Likes: 994 Member/15,000 posts | | Member/15,000 posts Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 15,885 Likes: 994 | I think from my yiddish lessons i remember that Sans means,
"I have wings, but they're not installed on the plane at the moment, but I'm not going to say that and you have to figure out what I mean, so I can get mad when you try"
My wife is really fluent at yiddish...... Now THAT'S funny! 
Ron Stewart N5282B KSFZ | | | | | Joined: Mar 2012 Posts: 46 Member | | Member Joined: Mar 2012 Posts: 46 | OK, lied.....I'm still here...was asked to stay
Let me try this again, and PLEASE, I'm just looking for a little help and info, not a critique of my semantics, or smug comments OK?, I inadvertently left out a word in my original post, mea culpa.....
The A/C in question is a '78 152, compete, but without an engine. The group that owns it wanted to do a O-320 150hp hotrod job, but found the STC too expensive for their program. The group is a non-profit that does restorations and mods with young students, and they trade work time for dual instruction. It's run by committee, so it moves slowly. I don't know what they paid for the airplane, but I felt that if I could get it cheap enough, it would pay off to have the group put her back together, and perhaps do a Taildragger mod, and a STOL program as well. So, that's my question, what might it be worth ballpark, hopefully not Ryan Braun's salary! My biggest expense will be the engine.
So, if anyone would like to give me ideas, (without spelling corrections), I am listening......
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| | | | | Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 25,416 Likes: 998 Member/25,000 posts | | Member/25,000 posts Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 25,416 Likes: 998 | It'd help to know the condition of the airframe, TTAF, paint, any corrosion, what equipment it has, any outstanding ADs, etc. Then we can come up with the value of a complete plane (with engine) and figure out how much to deduct for the missing engine and the labor cost to install an engine in it.
| | | | | Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 12,760 Member/10,000+ posts! | | Member/10,000+ posts! Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 12,760 | 150 hp STC, nosebowl and gross weight increase from DelAir: $1500.00
(you supply the rest of the additional parts)
Used, Runout 0-320, around 4-6k
Rebuild, around 8-12k
(you're doing most of the work)
Parts, pieces, bits, paint and other assorted shi.....er......stuff....$$$$$$
Paint?
6k and up
(or muuuch less if you strip and paint)
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