| | Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 9,805 Likes: 114 Member/7500+posts | | Member/7500+posts Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 9,805 Likes: 114 | Yeah, I'm bare assed, all right. I fly naked, too. I know I'm supposed to get the dual before I go solo, but I'll get that taken care of next week, after Thanksgiving. It's like giving a kid a sucker, letting him unwrap it, maybe even let him smell it, then tell him he can't have it for a week. I'm weak that way.  So, it's not even insured yet. What's the point unless I meet the requirements. I know, there'll be crap slung over this one, and I know the ramifications. So, I'll get the dual as quick as I can and hope like hell nothing bad happens.
Gary Shreve When writing the story of your life, never, ever let someone else hold the pen. [ Linked Image] | | | | | Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 4,968 Member/2500+posts | | Member/2500+posts Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 4,968 | Yeah, I'm bare assed, all right. I fly naked, too. I know I'm supposed to get the dual before I go solo, but I'll get that taken care of next week, after Thanksgiving. It's like giving a kid a sucker, letting him unwrap it, maybe even let him smell it, then tell him he can't have it for a week. I'm weak that way. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> So, it's not even insured yet. What's the point unless I meet the requirements. I know, there'll be crap slung over this one, and I know the ramifications. So, I'll get the dual as quick as I can and hope like hell nothing bad happens. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> Truth be known you are insured. Just "self-insured". You have made a concious economic decision to accept the risks associated with operating the aircraft without third party insurance. Nothing wrong with this at all as long as you know and acknowledge it, so off you go. I am curious, however...is there a required endorsement for "conventional" gear, or if I get a tail dragger, can I start flying it immediately? Interesting as I don't remember any differentiation between conventional and tri-gear aircraft. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" /> | | | | | Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 5,465 Likes: 22 Member/5000+posts! | | Member/5000+posts! Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 5,465 Likes: 22 | Jeff,
Don't know about in the US, however over here if you learn on a taildragger, when you get the licence you also get the endorsement. However if you learn on a tricycle, that is all you can fly until you get instruction and signed off with the endorsement to fly a tailwheel aircraft. - bit like fixed pitch and C/Speed endorsement
Its not actually stated anywhere if you learn on a taildragger you can't fly a tricycle without an endorsement on a tricycle aircraft.
As a variation to flying take manual and automatic cars, here if you learn on a manual, when you get the licence you can drive either manual or automatic, however if you learn on an auto, you licence is stamped Auto only until you have the licence up graded by the Roads and Traffic Authority
Cheers
Matt Gray
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| | | | | Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 9,805 Likes: 114 Member/7500+posts | | Member/7500+posts Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 9,805 Likes: 114 | There is a required endorsement in the FAR's pertaining to tail wheel airplanes, but I have that. So, I'm now current to carry passengers, according to the FAA, at least during the day.
I did my TD transition in a Super Cub, and I felt like it was almost cheating. It was a real great experience.
Now, in my 150/150 TD, it's a little more squirrely, but fun at the same time. Those rudder pedals really work. (even the wrong way)
Gary Shreve When writing the story of your life, never, ever let someone else hold the pen. [ Linked Image] | | | | | | Anonymous Unregistered | | Anonymous Unregistered | A lot of us older pilots who only flew with the little wheels were Grandfathered in as far as meeting the new requirements of getting an indorsement which came out in 1975 I think. That is not to say you retain your skill if you haven't played with one in a while. I flew a 170 some months back just like the first one I owned and you soon realize how lazy we trike guys are on the pedals. It is like everything else, you use it or lose it. | | | | | Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 25,416 Likes: 998 Member/25,000 posts | | Member/25,000 posts Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 25,416 Likes: 998 | Gary,
A belated congratulation from me. Have fun and be careful. | | | | | Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 10,735 Likes: 108 $ Member/10,000+ posts! | | $ Member/10,000+ posts! Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 10,735 Likes: 108 | Next year, I?ll just hit him with the nose wheel. Exact a little payback for him making me hit the dirt during one of his passes. Now, Gary, you can't quite do that, can you??
Jeff Hersom N3740J '67 150G "Gremlin" Hangar W-6, Helena Regional Airport Places I have landed Gremlin: ![[Linked Image from visitedstatesmap.com]](https://visitedstatesmap.com/image/ALAKFLGAIDILINIAKSKYLAMIMNMSMOMTNENCNDOHOKSDTNTXWIWYsm.jpg) ![[Linked Image]](https://www.cessna150152.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=download&Number=29260&filename=VisitedProvincesMap.jpg) | | | | | Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 1,940 Member/1500+posts | | Member/1500+posts Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 1,940 | I am curious, however...is there a required endorsement for "conventional" gear, or if I get a tail dragger, can I start flying it immediately? Interesting as I don't remember any differentiation between conventional and tri-gear aircraft. There is an endorsement required for the FAA. However, the insurance co. may require some amount of dual in make and model with TW for coverage. When I bought my 150 TD last year I had more than a thousand hours of tailwheel time. I also had more than 1500 hours of 150 time. Avemco issued coverage with no restrictions for me as the named pilot. I had previously carried insurance with Avemco for another TW airplane with no claims so I guess they thought I was OK. I have to look to see if there are any TW requirements for pilots in the employ of an FBO or maintenance facility. Geo.
George Abbott, PE
| | | | | Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 9,805 Likes: 114 Member/7500+posts | | Member/7500+posts Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 9,805 Likes: 114 | Next year, I?ll just hit him with the nose wheel. Exact a little payback for him making me hit the dirt during one of his passes. Now, Gary, you can't quite do that, can you?? No, I can't. But I'm learning that just before the mains hit, if I yank back hard on the yoke, the tail slams into the ground and the mains stay clear. I guess I could use that technique to "smack" Ed with the tail wheel... Okay, and just in case you're wondering if I really do that...I was just joking. But I bet it'd work.
Gary Shreve When writing the story of your life, never, ever let someone else hold the pen. [ Linked Image] | | | | | Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 1,940 Member/1500+posts | | Member/1500+posts Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 1,940 | I know, there'll be crap slung over this one, and I know the ramifications. Not by me! I've flown many hours without insurance. It wasn't till I had some tangible assets that I thought about liability insurance, just in case I lost it on roll out and clipped someone's Baron. When I was messing with experimentals and classics I didn't bother with hull because I figured I'd fix it myself. I presently carry $25K hull in motion because if anything bad happens I don't have to be bothered. Geo.
George Abbott, PE
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