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Re: Poll: Rudder AD Roger Shelton #203890 05/28/09 12:33 AM
Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 3,693 Likes: 1 W Wally Mayfield Member/2500+posts
Wally Mayfield Member/2500+posts W Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 3,693 Likes: 1	how many of you guys that DON'T have this kit on your plane worry about it?

Re: Poll: Rudder AD Wally Mayfield #203892 05/28/09 12:42 AM
Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 13,969 Grants Pass, OR. (3S8) Grants Pass Bill Member/10,000+ posts!
Grants Pass Bill Member/10,000+ posts! Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 13,969 Grants Pass, OR. (3S8)	You know, the one person that we have with us that should really be concerned about this AD has not spoken up. Catherine? Whatcha think? Does your airplane have this rudder mod installed? Bill Grants pass, Oregon

Re: Poll: Rudder AD Grants Pass Bill #203895 05/28/09 12:53 AM
Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 35,524 Likes: 554 I'm lost.. Ed Pataky DA POOBS Member with 30,000+ posts!!
Ed Pataky DA POOBS Member with 30,000+ posts!! Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 35,524 Likes: 554 I'm lost..	Good point, Bill. Very telling. Home run, Bro! Wonder what Catherine's take is on this? [animatedimages.org] Imagine a united world. Join the Popular Front for the Reunification of Gondwanaland.

Re: Poll: Rudder AD Ed Pataky #203901 05/28/09 01:16 AM
Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 1,667 Likes: 11 Sanger,Tx. D Dale Moorehead Member/1500+posts
Dale Moorehead Member/1500+posts D Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 1,667 Likes: 11 Sanger,Tx.	After reading all the threads on this issue I now have to ask how far out should the rudder stop bolts be from the tail? Can the rudder hit the elevator if the stops are not set correctly? Can a 150 have too much rudder? I just completed the Placard install and installed the kit on the tail. Before the kit was installed the stops were tight against the tail and had been since it was painted in 1985. We broke the paint installing the kit. No way could it hang up, but now I have suspenders as well as the belt. Value went up two-fold.

Re: Poll: Rudder AD Wally Mayfield #203904 05/28/09 01:27 AM
Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 5,951 Likes: 1 West Texas Wayne Westerman Member/5000+posts!
Wayne Westerman Member/5000+posts! Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 5,951 Likes: 1 West Texas	Originally Posted by Wally_Mayfield im amazed that my airplane has lasted this long without that "kit".. A friend had to comply with an AD on a 1947 cub in 2003. As Paul Harvey used to say “Hooo Hummm” Wayne Westerman http://wings.esisupply.com/

Re: Poll: Rudder AD Dale Moorehead #203909 05/28/09 02:35 AM
Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 15,869 Likes: 977 Ma. Ct. RI area Ron Stewart Member/15,000 posts
Ron Stewart Member/15,000 posts Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 15,869 Likes: 977 Ma. Ct. RI area	Originally Posted by Dale_Moorehead I just completed the Placard install and installed the kit on the tail. Dale, you did both? Installed the placard AND the service kit? Ron Stewart N5282B KSFZ

Re: Poll: Rudder AD Ron Stewart #203911 05/28/09 02:49 AM
Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 13,969 Grants Pass, OR. (3S8) Grants Pass Bill Member/10,000+ posts!
Grants Pass Bill Member/10,000+ posts! Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 13,969 Grants Pass, OR. (3S8)	Originally Posted by Ronald_Stewart Originally Posted by Dale_Moorehead I just completed the Placard install and installed the kit on the tail. Dale, you did both? Installed the placard AND the service kit? Dale's airplane was already in compliance with the "intent" of this AD by being placarded "Intentional spins prohibited." Bill Grants Pass, Oregon

Re: Poll: Rudder AD Grants Pass Bill #203923 05/28/09 03:30 AM
Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 15,869 Likes: 977 Ma. Ct. RI area Ron Stewart Member/15,000 posts
Ron Stewart Member/15,000 posts Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 15,869 Likes: 977 Ma. Ct. RI area	Originally Posted by Grants_Pass_Bill Originally Posted by Ronald_Stewart Originally Posted by Dale_Moorehead I just completed the Placard install and installed the kit on the tail. Dale, you did both? Installed the placard AND the service kit? Dale's airplane was already in compliance with the "intent" of this AD by already being placarded "Intentional spins prohibited." Bill Grants Pass, Oregon Oh. I forgot. Ron Stewart N5282B KSFZ

Re: Poll: Rudder AD Dale Moorehead #203971 05/28/09 01:20 PM
Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 8,433 Likes: 3 Georgia, Flying N Estates 1GA2... Chuck Hanna Member/7500+posts
Chuck Hanna Member/7500+posts Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 8,433 Likes: 3 Georgia, Flying N Estates 1GA2...	Originally Posted by Dale_Moorehead After reading all the threads on this issue I now have to ask how far out should the rudder stop bolts be from the tail? Can the rudder hit the elevator if the stops are not set correctly? Can a 150 have too much rudder? I just completed the Placard install and installed the kit on the tail. Before the kit was installed the stops were tight against the tail and had been since it was painted in 1985. We broke the paint installing the kit. No way could it hang up, but now I have suspenders as well as the belt. Value went up two-fold. Proper rudder travel, both left and right, is specified in the Type Certificate Data Sheet as (for 150F models) 23° measured parallel to chord. For all models after that, it is specified as 23° +0° -2° "measured perpendicularly to hinge line", which is the same as measuring parallel to the chord. The instructions for this kit call for you to check and adjust the rudder deflection and set the stop bolts, referring to the service manual. The attached illustration is from the maintenance manual for the 1977 150M, the illustration in the 1969 thru 1976 models is identical. It tells you one method to determine correct rudder travel. Charles [Linked Image] Attachments 16670-ruddertravel.jpg (75.05 KB, 31 downloads) Last edited by Chuck_Hanna; 05/28/09 01:20 PM. Visit my Early Cessna150 website http://150cessna.tripod.com

Re: Poll: Rudder AD Chuck Hanna #204040 05/28/09 09:42 PM
Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 1,667 Likes: 11 Sanger,Tx. D Dale Moorehead Member/1500+posts
Dale Moorehead Member/1500+posts D Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 1,667 Likes: 11 Sanger,Tx.	Thanks Chuck. Now I know and will have to check after we button up the kit.

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