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N(still looking) KRWN
| | | | Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,134 Member/1500+posts | Member/1500+posts Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,134 | Looks pretty good and the price is in the ballpark. Check that it has newer cylinders with the 28 degree timing. Check how many hours are on the vacuum pump and gyros. Has the prop ever been overhauled? Does it have an autofuel STC? Check the wear on the tires/brake pads. Radios aren't that great but they look serviceable. Given a good lookover, you could have a few points to negotiate.
Tim '76 C-150M, San Antonio
| | | | Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 18,962 Likes: 3 Member/15,000 posts | Member/15,000 posts Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 18,962 Likes: 3 | Now you're talkin', John! This is my favorite year for 150's! It's basically an early 152 with 40° flaps and a Continental engine. If the pre-buy goes well, it's certainly in the ball park. I'd be interested, if I were looking!  | | | | Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 13,969 Member/10,000+ posts! | Member/10,000+ posts! Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 13,969 | Just my own personal opinion, mind you. This is too much money. What is that new snazzy paint job hiding? It adds little, if any value. The engine is over midtime. Nothing of real value in the panel.
72G was a more honest airplane with 900 hours on the engine. We sold it for under $18,000. Dicker this one to under $20,000 or keep looking, John. You can do better.
Again, just my very personal opinion. | | | | Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,134 Member/1500+posts | Member/1500+posts Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,134 |
Tim '76 C-150M, San Antonio
| | | | Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 13,969 Member/10,000+ posts! | Member/10,000+ posts! Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 13,969 | Year does not matter, Tim. There is not enough difference between a 1968 to 1977. They are basically all the same airplane. Though there may be individual options within the various years that may be more value to some, from a personal point of view. Again, just my opinion. | | | | Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,134 Member/1500+posts | Member/1500+posts Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,134 | Put ten pilots in a room and you'll get ten opinions on everything. I have an uncle who can get the best price on anything. Problem is, it takes him 6 months to do the research to save 10 bucks on a 100 buck item. The price an airplane is worth is difficult to appraise precisely with just a short description and a photo to go by. What condition are the logs in? How was the airplane used--was it flown regularly or has it sat for extended periods? How close is the airplane to you? How many similar aircraft are for sale close by? Can you inspect it in person or will you have to hire someone unknown to you and have it ferried cross country? Has the aircraft lived in a hangar all its life or tied up on the ramp? The list goes on and on. Gaining title to the airplane is only the first expense of possibly many others before you actually have the airplane in hand.
Some members have gotten incredible deals on aircraft and may be a little prone to expect everyone should be so fortunate. Why, I even heard someone scored a good 150/150 for 22 grand some time back! I think I would die of old age before I come across a deal like that but if you're willing to wait...
I paid 21 grand for a '76M ten years ago. Since then I've added an STC for autogas, new radios, carb heat temp, 4 new cylinders, 4 channel digital CHT new seats and carpet, and am presently replacing all the plastic instrument panel covers with custom made metal. Is my airplane worth what I put into it on the open market--heck no. Is it worth less than what I paid for it--heck no. If you haven't guessed, the most I'll ever say is whether it's in the ballpark or not. I've seen 150s priced at 60 grand and some at less than 10 grand. It could be the one at 10 grand is the one that's overpriced! Take what you get for "prices" here as a WAG and do the research to figure out what that airplane is worth to you. Good luck.
Tim '76 C-150M, San Antonio
| | | | Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,134 Member/1500+posts | Member/1500+posts Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,134 | Year does not matter, Tim. There is not enough difference between a 1968 to 1977. They are basically all the same airplane. Though there may be individual options within the various years that may be more value to some, from a personal point of view. Again, just my opinion. Well Bill, we're just going to have be of different opinions here. The 150 line has evolved over the years. Some people disagree over the worth of the some of the refinements (electric flaps vs. manual for instance) but others like circuit breakers or fuses are generally for the better. The instrument panel layout is another difference that many think has improved over the years. Many lump all the 150s and 152 in the same basket but I, for one, think there is enough difference in the year models to make a difference in what one is worth, YMMV.
Tim '76 C-150M, San Antonio
| | | | Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 8,433 Likes: 3 Member/7500+posts | Member/7500+posts Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 8,433 Likes: 3 | Alot of differences between a '67 and a '77, all minor, all add up to an airplane that is very different.
Different nose cowl, and prop with extension. Tubular vs flat leg gear. Cleveland vs McCauley wheels and brakes Circuit breakers vs fuses. Simple flap switch vs flap preselect lever. Larger vs smaller dorsal fin. Possibility for many options on the '77 that are not found on the '67, such as post lamps, vertical height adjustable seats, etc.
People want newer and improved, even if it is "old". I suppose by Bill's reasoning, there really isn't much difference between a '59 and a '67 either, they are closer together in years than the '67 to the '77, and its the same model number............
Charles | | | | Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 13,969 Member/10,000+ posts! | Member/10,000+ posts! Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 13,969 | Though there may be individual options within the various years that may be more value to some, from a personal point of view.
Well Bill, we're just going to have be of different opinions here. Some people disagree over the worth of the some of the refinements.............. Gee Tim, where is the difference of opinion? | | |
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