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Iteresting point, Carl. The actual CG is within a fraction of an inch between the two airplanes. But the 150/150 has more weight both in the nose and in the tail.............

So, back to my original question, know of any nice ones for sale I can afford? Jim

There are a dozen or so 150's on Barnstormers [barnstormers.com] for under $20,000.

This is something that you can use to your benefit just by belonging to this wonderful club. If an airplane is not in your area, I bet that if you ask, somebody here is near and would be more then happy to check it out for you. I found Mr. Ed in Texas. Ed Pataky gave it a cursory looksie for me. And Gary Shreve picked it up and delivered it to Oregon. Now I ask you? Where else could you go to find......................

I started with a subscription to trade a plane, have been watching barnstormers, and controllers.com. Occationally I find one kind of adrift in cyberspace. Like yesteryday. I called about a 150 H,apart, repainted, needing some engine work, but in Oshkosh (30 miles away) for $10,000. Of course I called and it had been sold YEARS ago. I'm still looking, but have two in mind I really like. I'm going to see the second one tomorow or tues. It does seem like barnstormers is the best place to go, yes? Jim

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Landing my 152TD last week in a 70 degree, 17 knot crosswind, I ran out of rudder at flare. I would LOVE to have had more rudder!

As it relates to taildragger aircraft; I honestly think that the 150s with vertical rudder, such as is on Gary's TD, has more rudder authority than the swept tail versions - even the 'tall tail' models.

I agree, Dennis. You can never have too much tail.

Mike

Assuming similar vertical stab and rudder surface areas, the swept tail TD birds should have a slightly longer moment arm in yaw than the straight tails! On the ground, that should make them weathervane easier, but at the same time it should also increase rudder authority. Main gear stance is a factor, as it isn't the same on all conversions.

I'm looking forward to the day when I can compare them for myself!

ED!!!!

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Catherine is watching!

Tail?

Dennis, WHAT can you be thinking???


Purely as an academic exercise, I was considering and contrasting the relative merits and aerodynamic characteristics of the swept vertical stabilizer (at a 33 degree sweep from the relative wind) verses the standard vertical stabilizer at a 90 degree angle to the relative wind on our birds. Naturally, the greater side area on the newer birds (which had the height of the stabilzer increased approximately six inches with a commensurate increase in total area) will provide enhanced controllability particularly at slower speeds and greater angles or atack should one attempt an unusual maneuver uch as a slip or any maneuvers requiring rotation about the vertical axis of the craft while in an airborne configuation. Applying the fundamental elemental principles of fluid dynamics provides us many interesting and challenging scenarios.

Of course you can't ever have too much tail (feathers).


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