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Jeff Davis #10678 01/18/05 04:13 PM
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Jeff's right!

The best advice is to not answer their mail! But, I'm hard-headed, and wanted to play with them a little. I encouraged this one jerk, sending him bogus information, allowing him to think I was his next mark, until I finally got tired and sent him this:

[color:"purple"]"To whom it may concern:

I am a Federal Employee of the United States Government. This can be verified on several United States Government web sites! My e-mail accounts may be monitored by these organizations located in the United States:

The Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) [fbi.gov]

The National Security Agency (NSA) [nsa.gov]

The Central Inteligence Agency (CIA) [cia.gov]

When e-mail crosses the borders into Europe/African Continent:

The International Crime Prevention Police (InterPol) [interpol.int]

Furthermore, I subscribe to several IP tracing services, such as http://www.pointofmail.com/ , and receive reports on who is sending me e-mail, and receiving my e-mail. It seems you move around a lot, but I was finally able to obtain a name and address, which does not match anything in your correspondence. (please note that by opening this e-mail, you have sent me a report on your current location!)

[color:"red"] Stop and desist this illegal activity, NOW! [/color]"[/color]

These guys are smart? Nope! This message actually works. I never hear any more from them!

Carl

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Bill:

Just my opinion, but fagetaboudit! Too many other buyers out there to get involved with this guy. Sounds risky, or at least WAY too complicated!

Repeat after me, "Will buyer No. 2 please step forward?"

Mont

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It was fun for a while but I have grown weary of this game. So, I sent the following::

Patrick,

Please allow me to share some information a fellow pilot passed on to me:

Author wrote:
> This is posted on the AOPA website:
> AOPA members recently have been alerting the Pilot Information Center to the latest aircraft buying scam. In a typical scenario, the "buyer" offers above asking price for the aircraft and asks the seller to forward the difference to a third party. The buyer pays with a bogus cashier's check from a foreign (or even domestic) bank, and the seller deposits the check and forwards the excess money. Here's the catch. It can take two to three weeks before a bank determines that the cashier's check is fraudulent. If the seller has forwarded money to another party before the check clears, he could be responsible for coming up with that money. To be safer, a seller may want to establish a bank account specifically for receiving a wire transfer of the buyer's funds, suggests Rodney Martz, AOPA senior technical specialist, adding that "the solution is for any seller to have his banker check out any offered funds or checks." For questions about this or other scams you may have seen, contact AOPA's Pilot Information Center at 800/USA-AOPA.


I like this advice. Are you acceptable to the terms explained?

Best Regards,

Bill


I suspect that I will no longer be hearing from Patrick!

Greg Hopp #10681 01/21/05 03:46 AM
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Wow. The story on Saabnet it amazing.

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You have every right to be paranoid!! DON'T DO THIS!! Go to Saabnet.com [saabnet.com] to read about a similar sounding scam.


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By now you most likely convinced that this is a SCAM so I won?t beat that old horse any more.

I have sold a couple of cars and an airplane on eBay. This scam has been offered on each and every occasion. I demand (and get) ALL funds by wire transfer ONLY. Cashier checks and money orders can be forged and checks can bounce but a wire transfer is like cash in hand, better really since you don?t have to fill out the government forms for transactions of more than $5,000 cash. The wire transfer may cost you a few bucks but the insurance is worth it.

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ALL funds by wire transfer ONLY. Cashier checks and money orders can be forged and checks can bounce but a wire transfer is like cash in hand, better really since you don?t have to fill out the government forms for transactions of more than $5,000 cash.

A wire transfer transaction is TRACEABLE - it IS CASH upon reciept. The sending bank is responsible for the authentication of the funds being sent so IF they do arrive and funded to your account your bank and you are not liable for fraudulant wire transactions. The sending bank is.

In todays ever changing checkless society and international footprint the only way to go is "know your client" or accept funds transfered by wire. Ata boy Wayne good advice!!!! 33.4 yrs banking experience here

Will


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33.4 yrs <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" /> banking experience here <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Will

Wait a minute....I have 26 years and I am a good 10+ from any sort of retirement....HOW DID YOU DO THAT? (And that's after 4 years in the Navy and a year selling insurance) <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> Jeff

Jeff Davis #10685 01/22/05 01:21 AM
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I am sorry I have not retired yet I have 648 days to go. For those that are counting that is 10-31-2006

Will


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I am sorry I have not retired yet I have 648 days to go. For those that are counting that is 10-31-2006

Will
Man your lucky! I have at minimum 30 years to go.


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