| Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 7,197 Likes: 2 Member/5000+posts! | Member/5000+posts! Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 7,197 Likes: 2 | I was talking to the sales rep and he claimed O-200s have never had stuck valve problems and just love 100LL. He then went on to say maybe the O-200A might have had issues, but the B and the C (like he claimed to own and operate more time upside down than right side up!) are fine.
I then walked away trying to keep from laughing. Seriously- did you expect the rep to really either: a)know and have any experience with the product he's desperately trying to hawk, and/or; b)not lie through his teeth to make a sale. OR.... c) ignorant of aviation in general and older Cessnas in particular.
Dan
Civilization is the limitless multiplication of unnecessary necessities. (Mark Twain)
| | | | Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 2,852 Member/2500+posts | Member/2500+posts Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 2,852 | I was looking for that c...thanks, Dan. 
Labor omnia vincit. KDAL/KGKY and beyond.
| | | | Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 10,729 Likes: 105 $ Member/10,000+ posts! | $ Member/10,000+ posts! Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 10,729 Likes: 105 | Yeah... if he were trying to sell me a darn airplane, he would be a hell of a lot better off KNOWING what he's talking about... this bs he pulled out of his rear sure drove me away... I'll buy mine used in 30 years.
Jeff Hersom N3740J '67 150G "Gremlin" Hangar W-6, Helena Regional Airport Places I have landed Gremlin: ![[Linked Image from visitedstatesmap.com]](https://visitedstatesmap.com/image/ALAKFLGAIDILINIAKSKYLAMIMNMSMOMTNENCNDOHOKSDTNTXWIWYsm.jpg) | | | | Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 2,089 Likes: 5 Member/1500+posts | Member/1500+posts Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 2,089 Likes: 5 | However, as the orders taken numbers show, a Cessna vendor marketing a brand new product at OSH doesn't need the skills or any knowledge of a good car (or anything!) salesman. 
Matt Willett <><> Ex-Owner/Operator of the Spring Chicken N5095L
| | | | Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 35,523 Likes: 554 DA POOBS Member with 30,000+ posts!! | DA POOBS Member with 30,000+ posts!! Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 35,523 Likes: 554 | Hmmmm...
I went to the Skycatcher websire Cessna has and submitted my own blog. Basically, I mentioned that yeah, it's a nice bird, buy waaaay too expensive and that I'll keep my 150.
Guess what?
I can't find it.
'Magine that.... ![[Linked Image from animatedimages.org]](https://www.animatedimages.org/data/media/218/animated-penguin-image-0137.gif) [ animatedimages.org] Imagine a united world. Join the Popular Front for the Reunification of Gondwanaland. | | | | Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 1,497 Member/1000+posts | Member/1000+posts Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 1,497 | Troublemaker! A few Cessna sales reps (goons) are probably on their way down to "discuss" your blog. | | | | Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 432 Member/250+posts | Member/250+posts Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 432 | I almost purchased an LSA. An Allegro 2007 with an 80hp Rotex.
As a new student pilot with zero hours I decided that if I were going to learn how to fly I wanted my own plane. I researched the many different models and decided on the Allegro and drove to NC for a test flight. It was great, the 80hp Rotex out preformed my new 0-200 hands down at 6 gph fuel burn. The one I was going to get had a glass panel (yes, it has battery back-up)and was constructed with carbon fiber and aluminum. My price with all my options would have been $84.5k. I liked it better then the Cessna LSA.
It was nice but; Day/night VFR only, very thin aluminum and overall onstruction that meant a hanger is a must even on weekend trips.
The entire time I was looking it over the rep kept compairing it to the 150/152 and would point out differences. At this point I had not considered a 150/152 (the sales rep got me thinking about it though). His main arguement was cost of operating an LSA over a 150/152, which made a little sense at the time until...
The best insurance rate I could get was $3,200 a year. LSA's are still considered experimentals for insurance purposes. And just try to get a loan with less then total value on your insurance. That was the deal killer.
I then joined this club, learned a little about 150/152's, purchased N2673J from a club member, installed a fresh engine, and now Shelby has it for a ground-up restoration. I wanted it "new" like my LSA was going to be, for a whole lot less.
Some of you ol-timers seem worried about future Clinton's and the decline of this club. Because of LSA I now own a 150G and am a new member of your club. The LSA sales rep sold me on it. I'm very sure that when new pilots like myself get drawn into aviation and the LSA program, it is impossible NOT to look at the 150/152 market.
I look forward to many fond years with my "new" 67 150G and everything I can learn from this club. See you at Clinton in 2008.
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| | | | Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 18,962 Likes: 3 Member/15,000 posts | Member/15,000 posts Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 18,962 Likes: 3 | That's a great story, Jeff! I agree 100%! It's a lot cheaper to build a "new" and thoroughly proven 150 than it is to buy any LSA with as yet undiscovered "bugs" in the design.  | | | | Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 35,523 Likes: 554 DA POOBS Member with 30,000+ posts!! | DA POOBS Member with 30,000+ posts!! Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 35,523 Likes: 554 | ROCK ON JEFF!!!  ![[Linked Image from animatedimages.org]](https://www.animatedimages.org/data/media/218/animated-penguin-image-0137.gif) [ animatedimages.org] Imagine a united world. Join the Popular Front for the Reunification of Gondwanaland. | | | | Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 35,523 Likes: 554 DA POOBS Member with 30,000+ posts!! | DA POOBS Member with 30,000+ posts!! Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 35,523 Likes: 554 | Troublemaker! A few Cessna sales reps (goons) are probably on their way down to "discuss" your blog. Yo Eric! Yep! That's my middle name - TROUBLEMAKER! I just wrote what I thought and.... ...someone's at the door.... ![[Linked Image from animatedimages.org]](https://www.animatedimages.org/data/media/218/animated-penguin-image-0137.gif) [ animatedimages.org] Imagine a united world. Join the Popular Front for the Reunification of Gondwanaland. | | |
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